PSA: Low Elo Supports

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You should not finish a game with the lowest or 2nd lowest vision score on your team.

Yes EVERYONE should be warding, but you have or you should have a support item that lets you hold up to 4 wards at a time. The rest of the members on your team should not be placing more wards than you.

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Emo Twink7 votes

An additional argument, low elo adcs should have a vision score higher than one.

Naramiel2 votes

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An additional argument, low elo adcs should have a vision score higher than one.

ADCs can place wards?? Based on my own experience, I assumed Riot had disabled trinkets for them.

Azadethe4 votes
  1. How long was that game?
  2. It looks like several champs had Zombie wards, which artificially boost stats. Poros also count.

LIkely..... one team was losing so hard at bot lane she had a item 3311 and never finished the quest, or at least until ~ 20 minutes. That really throttles down wards. I can finish a item 3096 on a Top lane Ornn in 12 minutes, while almost fully csing. I've seen supports not get it before me, and they haven't been experiencing cooldown issues.

I don't think it's usually that they don't drop wards. I think it's that they suck so bad, they can't. (Especially true if they go item 3310 , don't upgrade it at all (especially early game), and then get brutally owned in game, while also picking up CS in lane(puts it on hard to recover cooldown if they do it too much)

Beerstein1 votes

{quoted}

  1. How long was that game?
  2. It looks like several champs had Zombie wards, which artificially boost stats. Poros also count.

LIkely..... one team was losing so hard at bot lane she had a item 3311 and never finished the quest, or at least until ~ 20 minutes. That really throttles down wards. I can finish a item 3096 on a Top lane Ornn in 12 minutes, while almost fully csing. I've seen supports not get it before me, and they haven't been experiencing cooldown issues.

I don't think it's usually that they don't drop wards. I think it's that they suck so bad, they can't. (Especially true if they go item 3310 , don't upgrade it at all (especially early game), and then get brutally owned in game, while also picking up CS in lane(puts it on hard to recover cooldown if they do it too much)

Game looks a decent length, but until mid-late game I think JG should have the highest ward score, at least as a JG myself that seems to be the case, though not as high as when they took JGs ward item.

NekoniClaws1 votes

That's absolutely spot on.

The item 3303 is terrible. You hard win a lane with full poke and manage to not kill a single CS, it'll still be just short of 15 minutes when the thing is finished.

If someone's taken zombie wards they've put down 2 wards for every trinket you've had up until that point. And they keep that lead, even if you hit 30 / 40 minute games.

VvVVvV2 votes

This game was too long..it was 58 minutes 30 seconds.

For the Lux on the other team she started with item 3303 but never finished it...she sold it to finish her 3rd item. She could of finished it but like most typical Lux supports she wanted to go full AP damage. She never upgraded her trinket or bought a control ward. Their Kennen bought 5. So even if her team members had zombie ward it was still a bad decisions to sell her warding item just to finish her 3rd item and not buy any control wards.

For our Nami she kept her ward item the entire 58 minute game but every time I looked she was sitting on 4 charges. I had to keep reminding her to use it. She also never bought a control ward or upgraded her trinket.

The only reason I checked the stats after the game was because we was losing for most of the game and every time someone went into the jungle they was getting collapsed on. So I was asking people to please upgrade their trinkets to sweepers and get control wards......but no one listened. Until about my 4th time asking then the Ekko finally did but the other 3 never did.

meowwow71 votes

yeah i always hated that as a support i get an item 3364 and only get like 2-3 wards from it and they weren't even from the enemy support and turns out the guy that did have the gold income item didn't even ward or clear them

Rathar Dashing1 votes

I agree, but vision score is pretty weird. Sometimes I'll get a super high score and sometimes I'll get like, 4-5 with the exact same placements of wards.

SSShutTheDuckUp1 votes

If my Vayne does not know in which bush the 5 enemies are hiding she will not flash into it.

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