Am I the only one who thinks Death's dance is going to be disgusting if the buffs go through

FalconPawwwwnch··36 votes·2,925 views

AD up to 80 Damage reduction to Dot up to 30% from 15% of all damage taken

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MissingKayo18 votes

Graves Hi there. I heard you hated my damage reduction.

bbQsauçe8 votes

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AmazoX2 votes

Don't forget armor from True Grit.

//funny thing, As I am in champ select, Enemy first picks Graves//

Sohleks9 votes

It's almost like the passive is you WILL live 3 seconds even if bursted hard.

Assassins are gonna love it.

And a lot of owners of the item are gonna crumble after close fights without minions close by

DeathBot6661 votes

Isn't...

That the point?

Sohleks2 votes

Yeah it's cool. It didn't really make its point before, just felt like a hump of stats.

On second thought though ADCs will use it better than assassins against them as they're simply better protected.

Glory ln Death2 votes

Assassin jumps on Syndra and kills her while she ults him, leaving him at 10% health. He turns desperately towards the minions and begins frantically attacking them.

"GIVE. ME. YOUR. HEALTH!" He screams at them.

But, it is in vain. The DOT is too strong, and he is slain.

Tek1918 votes

As if Graves + item 3812 + item 3046 + item 3047 + 8 Stacks wasnt strong enough. Well I guess picking graves is going to impossible now

YoungSirJ0ey3 votes

No, he wasn't. That's an awful build no one uses.

Dethflash2 votes

If riot really really wanted to buff it they should have just given it 5 more ad, OR make the bleed 20% of dmg taken over 3 seconda. But both 5 ad and doubling the bleed amount of 3 seconds to 30% seems like way to much of a buff and i can see this item getting nerfed a little the patch right after if this buff goes through

Big Lincoln2 votes

illaoi might actually be viable next patch

time to celebrate

Jeddy0171 votes

Well, not next patch, but in 7.9 (midseason patch).

Hexs Fortune2 votes

30 percent over 3 seconds is more dot damage than 15 over 5

Hauling Ashe9 votes

That's the point. The DOT gives you enough time to lifesteal back what you're about to lose and keep yourself from dying instantly.

Sire Hippington2 votes

Yep, and they still don't fix the one big issue of the item: the dot screwing out of combat mechanics. DD is theoretically a strong item already, but the fact that it's dot delays all mechanics that get cancled by damage by another 3sec is just very annoying and often a big drawback, especially since ad-casters(the intendet users) usually have out of combat ms from lethality items, the edge of night active that cancle upon takeing damage, and often enough stealth that reveals your position upon takeing damage.

Auz the Ripper1 votes

by lowering the dot to 3 seconds rather than 5, it does help that slightly

Sire Hippington2 votes

It already is 3 sec...

Auz the Ripper1 votes

huh, i guess i saw someone say 5 seconds and i believed them because it definitely feels that long.

cuddlykitten41 votes

basically every dot in the game does that. I feel like there's one (maybe two) that riot has specifically gone out of their way to make that not the case, but other than those you're still in combat. An enemy champion is damaging you at that moment, even if that champ is currently not there or is dead, that champion is still fighting you. You just might not be fighting it back.

Sire Hippington2 votes

just that every other dot is inflicted by opponents. DD is selfinflicted and occurse whenever you take any damage. Get hit by a single minion - 3sec of extra combat. I for one would built the item alot more often if it wouldn't screw with so many mechanics even if it wouldn't recive any other buffs.

KoggyStyle2 votes

How fkin hard are they trying to break illaoi?

AirKingNeo1 votes

Illaoi was strong enough to get any broke? When?

the weeaboo2 votes

Well maybe now someone will actually buy it instead of item 3072 ???

chipndip12 votes

Yeah, but no one builds it right now...so it obviously needs a buff.

cuddlykitten43 votes

I build it a lot actually.

chipndip12 votes

Barely anyone

Fondling Gems1 votes

CC is still a hard counter to it though. CC them to stop them from lifestealing and an extra 3 seconds wont mean much, the tick damage still goes through.

That being said I do kinda get it since armour items are getting more armour focus so they will be negating more healing.

Geshultz1 votes

To be honest the damage still goes through but it does make it better at surviving burst longer then a second. Overall it will likely make it better life steal item dedicated to surviving burst longer then a second. Which is fine since bloodthirster is basically same thing on squishes but gave more hp but with the change will make death's dance give 585 total hp turned into a health pool of 1950average adc at lvl 18 vs blood thrister 350 hp flat shield without damage being converted. Overall it will be a major buff but won't make the item overpowered expect maybe on Graves and Illaoi who both build tankish normally.

TheHappyReaperz1 votes

However, armor is getting buffed as well, so it should even out. And, since you take the DOT as true damage, its turning 30% of the damage you take into true damage.

YoungSirJ0ey5 votes

No, it stores it post-mitigation.

ZT Xperimentor1 votes

Hmm, wonder who would be more dangerous against the self bleed effect . . . probably darius.

Akali is SO HOT1 votes

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Toastersaot1 votes

Riven too maybe?

Automated Riven1 votes

you only buy DD on riven in pretty corner case situations. and even then its usually to fish for that last 10%cdr and lifesteal quickly. it might be a little more optimal after the changes but I dont see it being core.

Gear Kitty1 votes

Why are they buffing it? It's already the perfect item?

Like, shit, this turns any ADC into a tank if they can attack fast/hard enough!

This is legitimately my favorite item in the game and I don't want to see it nerfed because it gets a buff (also, I don't want to see more players learn how to fight against it because it gets a buff, that's half my strategy).

Riot, pleeeeeease don't buff this. This is a Danger Mario item for squishy ADs with the offset that it brings lower AD with the purchase and has a MUCH easier build path than Blood Thirster, but not as easy as BotRK. You're just gonna end up Rylai's'ing it. A niche item gets buffed, it proliferates and is super obnoxious to play against, and it receives major nerfs.

You've done it before, I beg you not to do it to the item I love. I already lost my first love in this game....

RIP WotA, you will live on in my heart.

SweedishGunner1 votes

Riot: 'ADC's aren't building our bruiser or assassin items, we need to buff them until they do!'

Genius.

Meep Man4 votes

item 3812 is not what I would call a pure Bruiser item (or even Assassin). More just AD Casters in general, which includes some Marksman.

AmazoX1 votes

This bi-tch MissFortune

Veraska1 votes

I used to build it on kha'zix looks very strong but as a rengar main I don't want to live in a world where every Lucian has 30% dmg reduction

Danjeng1 votes

Is the gold price going up? Death's dance is already a powerful item as is. Upping the damage reduction to 30% will break it. That's like having a perpetual Garen courage on you. Unless the DoT increased to more than the damage reduced, like 35%.

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