Not saying I really have a lot of experience with Vayne, but would it help if her Q were just changed to a flat amount plus % BONUS AD? I feel like that way it would never get to be THAT large of a damage increase unless she itemized for full AD instead of AS.
Kledy McKledFace1 votesOR dont let her crit out of her q
AHarmlessTaco1 votesHow is that fair when Jinx can AOE x3 crit with rockets? Vayne is meant to have very high single target damage because everyone else can build runaans and has more range?
JhomasTefferson1 votesOr they could remove any of her self peel. 3 abilities which do it is too much.
AHarmlessTaco1 votes3? The ult is kinda part of her Q..... 2.5 and we'll call it good. Lol How do you justify her being a duelist though without mobility and peel?
JhomasTefferson1 votesif you take away one of those abilities she could still duel. 3 shotting would still happen.
AHarmlessTaco1 votesI thought you meant take away any and all of her self peel.... Toning down one of them would probably be fine though.
If anything, maybe she just needs a Q CD increase. I just don't know why she got SO GOOD all of a sudden. All they did was make her Q consistently crit if the aa crits, nothing was really ew about it I didnt think.
JhomasTefferson1 votesThat would work too. her tumble is up too much to "bait" it out. That's what I was trying to say. It makes it too hard to stick to her, even as like, fizz.
AHarmlessTaco1 votesYeah I getchu. On the one hand, they really do hamper its cooldown by making her AA to begin the cooldown, but at the same time, 1.6 seconds or whatever with some CDR is a pretty short CD for a dash like that. I could see it maybe being bumped to 3 seconds to get an extra second between each dash. Coupled with some kind of MINOR Q damage nerf I think it would put her back in her place. Not real sure though.
JhomasTefferson1 votesMy issue with her is that shes nearly impossible to assassinate and as a marksman that runs counter to what a marksman should be doing. If she was just outdamaging the assassin and bursting them before they burst her, that would be ok, but the ability to run away so well, to peel for herself so well, is toxic
AHarmlessTaco1 votesI mean it might help too if her E became a skillshot. Condemn that is. I mean overall Vayne has a very high skill cap and should be rewarded for playing well. I admit I have had some infuriating experiences with good Vayne players, and if anything I would have to say that I think her Q cd is a little too short and the point and click knockback is really strong. She's not a strong laner and she is designed to be a duelist, so you have to be careful not to destroy her identity when you argue nerfs for her.
JhomasTefferson1 votesI agree completely. That would make it better.