Camille's ult should be flashable only.

JavelinJoe·Dec 19, 2016·3 votes·1,529 views

Only flash can escape it. I like the idea behind forced entrapment, it is kinda unique and changes a lot of how fights can play out. But having it 100% inescapable is kinda OP for some one like Camille to have. Someone who has a LOT of mobility and easily can get to back-lines while still dealing above average damage. So why not make it escapable with flash only?? This way her ult either forces a very long SS or works as it does currently. She already has a stun, a slow, and a whole bunch of other things to make your day harder when facing her. So why not just give this one escape opportunity for us when she uses her ult?

13 Comments

Dominick DestineDec 19, 20162 votes

Camomille tea has 45% win rate.

She does not need massive nerfs like you are requesting.

RainbowlazarsDec 19, 20162 votes

Shes not super strong, people super dont know how to play her, but her ult IS oppressive. Just because she isn't doing well doesn't mean they should look at a kit.

Dominick DestineDec 19, 20161 votes

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but her ult IS oppressive.

That's the whole point of her ult.

Fail.

Drizzt17Dec 22, 20162 votes

@JavelinJoe Man I don't know why you are getting so many downvotes but you are 100% true. Every ability in the game who offers no counterplay should be removed imo. It is frustrating as hell when a camille with his ultra long range abilities just gets on to you(she doesnt even have to land her q just flash+ult you), then you are 1v1 vs a fiora than can dodge everything until she gets to you(invulnerability when she cast ult). Don't forget she has a shield+a heal+slow(overloaded kit as ekko). At least let me out by flashing jesus it is a 5 minute cd, and her ult is 2 mins with no cdr, at level 16 up to 1 minute with 40 cdr at 16. I don't know about you guys but the amount of times I've seen a camille get out of her ult in a 1v1 after a lot of games is 0. Right now her only counterplay is permaban her and hope riot give us our 10 bans for the season, and dodge if it slips through champ select.

I am PacmanDec 19, 20161 votes

I like the idea behind forced entrapment, it is kinda unique and changes a lot of how fights can play out

Why would you then let every champion in the game escape it? It pretty much ruins the ability. It becomse a zero damage jarvan ulti that can only trap one person. You can already stop it by either just stunning and focus firing like any other bruiser assassin (irelia ,j4, renekton) or you can knock her out of it with gragas, lee, alistar etc.

RainbowlazarsDec 19, 20162 votes

It also pushes all the other enemies out at first, which is alot of bonus utility.

JavelinJoeDec 21, 20162 votes

I meant that having something that abilities and items could not get out of was a good idea, but also having summoner spells included is too much imo. summoner 4 has a 5 minute or so cooldown. You can get 2-3 ults off in the time it takes for to become available again.

You can already stop it by either just stunning and focus firing like any other bruiser assassin

No, according to the wiki, it only ends either after 4 seconds, or if she leaves the area. Stunning her does nothing. I am pretty sure the ult remains if she dies within the area too, until the 4 seconds are up, but I am not positive on this one.

It becomse a zero damage jarvan ulti that can only trap one person.

While the ult itself does no damage, it has a knockback of all champions besides the target, and gives Camille 5/10/15 (+ 4/6/8% of targets current health) as bonus magic damage on her basic attacks. That Knockback can proc abilities like Yasuo's ult and can stop channels/stationary abilities like Nunu's, Fiddlestick's, and Jhin's ult.

TorgalDec 19, 20161 votes

Fuck Flash.

Missplay with your position ? You deserved to die.

FioraWillCarryDec 19, 20161 votes

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Fuck Flash.

Missplay with your position ? You deserved to die.

Amen brother. Fuck flash. Too many noobs get a free escape when they should die thanks to this retarded spell. Fuck flash.

JavelinJoeDec 21, 20162 votes

And how many kills are gotten as well because of it? I would say about just as much, if not then just slightly less. It can work both ways you know. It can fit within your own words, Too many noobs get a free kill when they should not

JavelinJoeDec 21, 20161 votes

She is one of the better dive champions in the game currently. So "misplaying your position" is not always the case since she can easily track you with her E (not to mention stun you for a second if she hits you with it).

OleandervineDec 21, 20161 votes

Stuns shut down flash 100%. Kench eating you shuts down flash 100%. Cassiopeia's Miasma shuts down flash 100%. The difference between these and Hextech Ultimatum is that while you are in a pickle, you will not be instantly deleted because you can fight back and potentially kill Camille. She is trapped in the Ultimatum with you, and if you force her to flee, you're free. Fight her instead of trying to run, and you might actually find that it's not as horrible as like a stun or Yasuo ult.

JavelinJoeDec 21, 20162 votes

She knocks all other enemy champions out of it, but her allies are unaffected. Meaning you are potentially forced into a 1v1 up to 1v5 for a second or 2 as your team is knocked away in all direction. Also, nothing says that those other forms of CC cannot still be used along with her ult except for maybe Tahm's.