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I'm suprised no one else has realized this yet: Your own minions/tower needs to be points of safety

SwiftKitten88·12/27/2018, 4:51:09 AM·2 votes·1,375 views

Yasuo Irelia

what do they have in common?

  1. endless dashes with no cooldown

and these are BOTH done.. on what?

enemy minions

the REASON why these 2 champions are so toxic to face is they change was is supposed to be a "safe zone" of YOUR OWN MINION WAVES into DEATH TRAP.

a big line of minion walking from base? they're not here to save u.. all they do is provide a free path to for Yasuo and Irelia in and out.

minions are what u stay behind for safety

towers are supposed to protect you

yet now we have Akali telling you "towers don't protect you"

we have Yasuo and Irelia that say "your own minions are your own worst enemy"

and riot wonders why all three of these champions are 3 of the most toxic to have to deal.

because they break how league works

your own minions = SAFETY your tower = SAFETY

when you break those cardinal rules your champion is going to have a near permaban status regardless of anything else.

Yasuo and Akali are easy enough to fix

for Yasuo just remove the cooldown from using the same minon twice and add a base 5/4.5/4/3.5/3 cooldown on the dash

and your done, that way with cdr its about 2 seconds

maybe the base values need to be touched up a little more (+/- 1 sec) but thats the general idea anyways

Akali is likewise simple remove the true stealth, make her shroud COST energy, and put the 40 energy regen on procing her passive

again an easy fix

Irelia i dont know how to fix other than her damage reduction needs to me interruptible with displacement/stun/silence and something about her dash needs to be fixed. idk maybe 70/80% reset? just brain-storming, i dont really want to do that to her as it hurts her clear and her them of dash to keep clearly the wave, its a pretty shitty and unelegant solution that would feel pretty bad, but sort of reverting the entire rework i dont see a better option. if u got idea for how to fix her im all ears as i dont know how to fix her dash.

11 Comments

The entire team12/27/2018, 7:39:56 AM2 votes

Dude, that’s just part of their kit. I understand about towers, but minions aren’t supposed to be threatening. They are supposed to give you gold and help block and attack when they need to. They already buffed the damage by minions, but they don’t need to do 300 damage to the laners or else that would be too punishing.

If you hate dashes so much, play Poopy to invalidate them. Her W stops ALL dashes during the duration, and nobody wants to be stunned for 2.5 seconds. :9

Also, Yasuo wouldn’t be Yasuo without his continual dashes, and Irelia would be like a neutered dog with your suggestions.

Hotarµ12/27/2018, 4:55:23 AM1 votes

Towers should be a point of safety, minions no. Minions should be somewhat threatening to the enemy laner when tanking entire waves, but a row of minions shouldn't completely invalidate melee laners.

ModWulf Helhammer12/27/2018, 3:39:24 PM1 votes

None of your principles are correct.

Minions are only a “safe zone” in so much when you’re dealing with a line skill shot that stops on the first target. Some skills go through the first hit (Lux bind, MF double up), others straight up ignore minions altogether. Minions are a danger zone for the enemy, not a safe one for you.

As for towers, they are a safer zone, but they do not make you invulnerable. Champions are made to attack you under tower, and if you are in a position that will die to a tower dive and you’re staying, you better hope that you are good enough to get out alive.

(Also, if Akali didn’t have her shroud, her burst damage would have to go dramatically, which means she could actually kill you in a time similar to other assassins, and you wouldn’t have much chance to outplay her at all)

Tegash12/27/2018, 7:50:53 PM1 votes

Clearly Riot's intention here is to signify that the safest place to duel Yasuo, Akali and Irelia is under their own tower.