I still hate the MMR system

Ok sure but why··1 votes·276 views

Let's try to put this into perspective with examples.

So, your MMR is pretty good. You've been doing well! Good job.

You're playing a tanky jungler. You work your heart out to get your ADC and Mid some kills. Good job. Your ADC and Mid are actual trash, and in every teamfight, you realise you've been going into 3v5's with your tanky support and mediocre Top laner, as your ADC and Mid spend their entire time either running away from the fights you initiate in or trying their hardest to run in front of you to become the new front line and die. So you lose.

So, your MMR is decent. Seems it got worse, though; I guess that must be all your fault for being the only bad player on your team.

You're playing an ADC this time because you want someone to do damage. Your Mid feeds again, your support turns the lane into a 1v2 which leaves you under-farmed and underfed, and your tanky jungler somehow misses all his abilities and becomes a mild obstacle that can be ignored. You become an easy target for the enemy divers, and no matter how hard you kite as an immobile ADC, you can never seem to fend off the 1v5.

So, your MMR is lower than average. You will continue to tank unless you improve your play!

Example over.

Is that exactly fair? Is there actually no better LP gain/loss system you could implement?

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Hey h0w r ya4 votes

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Ok sure but why1 votes

Okay, 1/9 Garen and 2/7 Ashe. You wanna use some actual points as to why the current MMR system is good? Or are you content with being petty and loathsome?

Half of those games were experiments in NORMAL matches, and a quarter of those games I actually did well. And you know what? In the games where I did do bad, I'd prefer losing more LP than the rest of my team, if that meant I'd lose less when I did well. That's only fair.

Now use an actual point as to why the MMR system is bad. I notice you comment on lots of posts after searching them on OP.GG instead of addressing the actual points mentioned. So come on. Be civil. Try it.

Hey h0w r ya1 votes

This isn't my main account, it is the account I teach my wife on. She plays' ive never even been on the account. My accounts name is "H1 H0w are ya"

Your response, while well thought out, does not dispute my points. You play bad in a lot of your games and this post is making it seem like you do great and your team always plays terrible. Address that

Ok sure but why1 votes

This is to address how absolutely everyone feels when their team does immensely poorly. Not just me. And I did address it.

[{quoted}](name=Ok sure but why,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=wAiaEK0r,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2018-02-13T19:44:58.804+0000) In the games where I did do bad, I'd prefer losing more LP than the rest of my team, if that meant I'd lose less when I did well. That's only fair.

Because it IS only fair. Everyone has bad games. I know when I'm in the wrong. I can defend Archangel's Staff until the day I die. It's a scaling item that gives 140+ AP and a powerful shield when built with Morello's. But I know I did poorly as Lux against a Fizz, you know, her counter. I can say how my Shaco JG went AFK, or how their WW tower dove me for first blood, or how the client bugged out and didn't let me put on the Perfect Timing rune in champ select. But I know I could have farmed even more safely or something until the mid-game.

The Twitch game was a normals, and I tried Rageblade because I saw NB3 do it. And it actually worked well. You ignored my assists, because My top, mid and JG were all kill-thirsty jungle assassins that game. For some reason.

For WW, some idiot messaged me like "OMG YOU DID GOOD WITH WW LAST TIME YOU PLAYED, wANNA HELP ME GET THAT MISSION DONE????" Meaning that person was too inept to win on his own. He fed as Fiora really hard, ignored pings, etc. Then the ADC fed. Everyone on their team was fed, and if you say otherwise,,, no. You'd be wrong.

I can defend Lethal Tempo on Tahm, too. The faster he can get three stacks on someone, the better, and getting to use a ton of his high-damage auto attacks will always make him more powerful than he would be if he takes something dumb like Grasp. And with a decent ADC, it works enough magic to win nearly every laning phase. I used to take Lethal Tempo on Malphite, too, for the same reason. I got him to

Second time ever playing Karthus, in a NORMALS. And I was against a Veigar that went full Tank: Warmong's, Spirit Visage, Merc Treads, etc. That's not something you prepare to face in the mid lane as a Karthus, especially after your team decided to give him some free kills in the early game.

First time playing Teemo Jungle, in a NORMALS. And funny enough, I faced the only jungler out there that literally coutners a teemo, with an ult that reveals him, a W that removes cc, and a shit ton of damage. So yeah, I could make a whole post about League of Coutnerpicks.

So, yeah. I addressed my issues. Would you like to actually comment on MMR, yet? They topic of the OP? I would really like to hear your point on MMR, instead of this petty garbage.

Hey h0w r ya1 votes

All of your excuses either blame your team or blame another champion being too good vs your champion. You keep furthering my point.

Regarding MMR if you use lolnexus.com you will see that damn near every ranked game both teams have a very similar MMR. Maybe off by a few points but nothing that is an advantage. If you have a negative win rate then your MMR will be lower then where you are at because you are losing more games to people at your current elo then winning and it should be harder to climb because you don't deserve to be where you are. This works in reverse, if you are winning way more then you lose then you got a lot more LP for wins because you clearly don't belong in that elo. This causes you to get matched up against people divisions higher then you. If you can't beat them then your mmr lowers because you arent good enough to be in that elo.

What is the issue here?

Jamaree3 votes

Because it’s a team game, welcome to team games in a nutshell, you could be the mvp but if your team can’t do shit around you, as it goes.

FOR JUSTICE2 votes

because youre the jungler its somehow your fault for never ganking yet simultaneously feeding their lane

- Laners everywhere

[zombie-brand-clap]

FullmuteAll play2 votes

Ikr. Imho lp gain/loss should also base on other measurements such as KDA, KP, objectives taking. I mean in long run, it still defines your approximate rank, but not everybody wants/is able to commit to long run.

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