Elo hell exists but only for ADC's?

Woook3r·Jan 22, 2016·2 votes·649 views

Maybe it doesn't exist for most, but since adc's are gimped in so many ways it does for them. They need more teamwork than any other role.

20 Comments

colesyJan 22, 20163 votes

OP doesn't seem to be familiar with adcs with self peel

PennsJan 22, 20162 votes

Self peel is often not enough tho. Garen flashes onto Tristana without peel and rip lol

colesyJan 22, 20161 votes

trist buys qss and leaps away.

Woook3rJan 22, 20161 votes

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trist buys qss and leaps away.

Enemy team at 20 kills in 10 minutes. Tristana cant afford qss or return to lane and farm.

colesyJan 22, 20164 votes

how the fuck does it even matter if a garen can jump at you then if their entire team can delete you

you might as well just say "if my team gets massively behind i lose"

in which case, no shit sherlock

Woook3rJan 22, 20161 votes

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how the fuck does it even matter if a garen can jump at you then if their entire team can delete you

you might as well just say "if my team gets massively behind i lose"

in which case, no shit sherlock

I can delay a lot of things if I get fed as leblanc. Her chains. If I get fed as azir same story. His range and ult and waveclear. Victor, same story buy rylais crystal scepter. If I am mid, I basically just need my teammates to not get overconfident because I am carrying them.

colesyJan 22, 20162 votes

you've listed a bunch of champions reliant on careful positioning to get their damage off and not be counter bursted. same applies to adc, so idk what you're complaining about.

Woook3rJan 22, 20161 votes

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you've listed a bunch of champions reliant on careful positioning to get their damage off and not be counter bursted. same applies to adc, so idk what you're complaining about.

No. I can tell you dont know how to play the game now. You just said that adc's, tanks like malaphite, ap burst mages like annie, and zed all have the same playstyle.

Also, your a fucking troll because who can "counterburst" Malaphite or Xin? You cant burst malaphite. Period.

All you need is flash and dump your burst as annie. When is the last time you saw an adc flash in, use one ability, stun a bunch of ppl and then die, and turn a fight by doing so? Never. No adc has that playstyle. Ever. No adc has the abilities to even support that playstyle.

colesyJan 22, 20162 votes

you listed a bunch of mids, which tend to be mages and assassins. they all function around trying to burst down priority targets while staying alive themselves. adcs function exactly the same. failing that you focus their frontline and kite back.

and mf can do things like flash ulting a team in the baron pit and cutting them to pieces, so yeah, there are adcs with high impact abilities they can flash and unload on to people.

and -you- don't know how to play the game because you're fucking bronze, if you knew how to play the game you wouldn't be in bronze LOL.

Woook3rJan 22, 20161 votes

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you listed a bunch of mids, which tend to be mages and assassins. they all function around trying to burst down priority targets while staying alive themselves. adcs function exactly the same. failing that you focus their frontline and kite back.

and mf can do things like flash ulting a team in the baron pit and cutting them to pieces, so yeah, there are adcs with high impact abilities they can flash and unload on to people.

and -you- don't know how to play the game because you're fucking bronze, if you knew how to play the game you wouldn't be in bronze LOL.

I thought you were responding to adifferent comment. I listed a bunch of duelists and castors who can actually capitalize on the mistakes made in bronze. They do NOT have the same playstyle as adc. They are BURST champions whereas adc's are sustained dmg.

Go tell someone else that leblanc victor and jinx have the same play style.

colesyJan 22, 20161 votes

they have same playstyle in the very broad sense I just told you. they want to output a large amount of damage on to priority targets while putting themselves in the least risk possible. this is irrefutable.

and adcs can capitalise on mistakes in bronze just fine, you do something called stomping your lane and then extending your lead to your other lanes. remember that winning bot lane means freeing up two people in your team (you, the adc, and your support) which means you can dedicate an extra player to both the mid and top lanes to start applying pressure. it then gets harder for the enemy to farm because of the numbers disparity (their ad will be farming bot to catch up so it's 4v5) and they fall even further behind in gold as they lose more objectives, and your team gain more gold. eventually the lead becomes insurmountable and you win.

if you don't think adcs can capitalise on mistakes in bronze (spoiler: they can), then that's why you're in bronze, because your game knowledge is poor.

Guyy FieriJan 23, 20161 votes

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you listed a bunch of mids, which tend to be mages and assassins. they all function around trying to burst down priority targets while staying alive themselves. adcs function exactly the same. failing that you focus their frontline and kite back.

and mf can do things like flash ulting a team in the baron pit and cutting them to pieces, so yeah, there are adcs with high impact abilities they can flash and unload on to people.

and -you- don't know how to play the game because you're fucking bronze, if you knew how to play the game you wouldn't be in bronze LOL.

You go ahead and flash ult into a team fight on MF without a proper engage from your team first and see what happen.

Woook3rJan 22, 20161 votes

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OP doesn't seem to be familiar with adcs with self peel

Thats an assumption you made because you dont know me..check my last game with tristana. s rank. 24/7/9. First player to get to full build.

colesyJan 22, 20162 votes

lmfao, how the fuck does your "rank" matter? 24 kills and couldnt even carry? died seven times? cool story bro, play better next time.

Woook3rJan 22, 20161 votes

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lmfao, how the fuck does your "rank" matter? 24 kills and couldnt even carry? died seven times? cool story bro, play better next time.

So you think that I would have won with 27 kills?

colesyJan 22, 20162 votes

no, I'm saying how the hell did you kill 24 people and not win a game with the gold that comes with all of that.

Woook3rJan 22, 20161 votes

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no, I'm saying how the hell did you kill 24 people and not win a game with the gold that comes with all of that.

Because zed and annie and malaphite and xin are all perfectly designed to focus and kill an adc. Furthermore, some of my teammates would not help take objectives after winning teamfights at points in the game where we could have pressed our advantage for the win..

colesyJan 22, 20162 votes

I don't see a banshee's veil or qss in your build anywhere. you also built an essence reaver rather than BT.

well there's our answer, you itemised like a complete moron, no wonder you couldn't carry.

it's not elo hell, you're just fucking bad.

KaiokoJan 22, 20161 votes

It's there for anyone who relies on their team to do better and that's never going to change as Riot is not going to balance it out just for ELO hell.

XenomancersJan 22, 20161 votes

ELO hell exist at every position. I never feed - literally never. I go bot top feeds - I go mid top feeds - I go jungle every lane feeds. Makes no difference where you play bro - you gonna have 2-3 duds in every game - sometimes they on your team - sometimes on the enemy team. Sometimes you get unfair distribution of them.