yep. we gonna see lucian nerfs before we see zed nerfs.

Are you basing your argument on Zed going up against a Lucian? Really? Only a true idiot adc would try to fight the squishy killer. This is why zed needs nerfs.

Manaless poke and wavelear. Say goodbye to about 10% of your hp if he lands a shuriken, that's on a low cd and he can throw another one for 50% more dmg by using his shadow (which most do). A ton of mid laners have almost 0 counterplay against Zed, save zhonyas, which now has a longer cd than zeds ult. Its not Zeds lategame strength that's the problem, I'm completely fine with that. He should be able to single out any target and destroy them if they wonder off, that's what assassins do. But its the fact that his lane phase is so damn good that warrants nerfs. Pre - 6 he should be weak like all the other assassins, and give others the chance to take him out before he gets his ult.

but if you manage to not feed him, he's a lousy teamfighter and if his team doesn't play well around a splitpush, will often become useless after 25 minutes.

Have you Fought anybody other than Bronze 5? Have you fought a Diamond Zed? I have.

Everyone is useless in Bronze 5.

Lucian has god awful siege, you're higher than a kite. His wave clear is fantastic, but the fact that he only 500 range makes his sieging awful, because he can just be caught because he's too close. Now, I'm not arguing that he's too strong. In fact, as a Lucian main since Preseason 5, I want him to be nerfed so I can play him more

yes. and this is why you gut zed and not lucian. why would you gut one of the ONLY functional adc's? DO YOU HATE US?

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And then there was the time when you spammed about 7 Draven threads that absolutely no one agreed with you on, and pointed out multiple areas where you were doing wrong.

And Lucian isn't a decent ADC that outshines the others because they are bad, Lucian is one of the best ADCs who outshines the others for simply that fact. Why pick MF, Corki, or Vayne when Lucian is a stronger lane bully, mid game carry, and late game powerhouse then all three, while having more safety?

And nerfing a cooldown by 2 seconds at max rank in a champion that has at least 30% CDR isn't gutting. Neither is minor range nerfs, one of which was a spell that really didn't do much anyway.

This is the first day of the new cycle. Riot said that they would be monitoring Zed after the QSS changes and would be making the appropriate balance changes if and when they were required.

Lucian's late game isn't nearly as good as Vayne's.

His late game isn't even particularly good as far as ADCs go.

the numbers I saw put lucian at 2.5% and zed at 80%.

It's mathematically impossible for Zed to have a higher pick rate than Lucian, because Zed's ban rate is higher than Lucian's pickrate.

Lucian has a P/B percentage of 40.68%

Zed has a P/B percentage of 87.27%

That means that Zed is more than twice as likely to picked or banned in Champion select than Lucian.

This is a dumb response, like that fact or not.

How is zed going to have a higher win rate, or be "more popular" when he is banned so much?

Did you even think before posting this response?

"Zed is banned, people don't want to play against him. He needs a nerf"

"Yeah well Lucian is played more so he deserves the ban more"

"You mean the guy who is rarely banned is played more than the guy not available to play?"

"Yeah! You understand my argument!"

<_< Think before you post

What's more sad is some people upvoted your response.

Just think about this logically for a second. Why would people not want to play against a certain champion? oh right, because that champion has an unfair advantage and is anti fun in every way.

Allow me to elaborate on the anti fun part. He is anti fun to play against because he can pretty much roll his face on the keyboard after he hits 6 and kill anyone who isnt a full hp tank.

He is anti fun to play as for several reasons. The first of which being, and believe me, i am not alone in this opinion, your opponents will have zero respect for any "plays" you make on this champion and will not think you are any good, reguardless of weather you are or not, basically no matter how well or bad you play the champion you are playing dictates a certain level of performance reguardless of how strong of a player you are.

Fuck Zed, Yasuo, Malphite, Annie, Fizz mains. All have the same issues. Super easy to play, super overpowered, and if y ouve seen one youve seen em all. There is NO variance in play.

Champions that do not synergize with nor have any built-in mechanisms that protect them from zed's ult can't deal with the champion by themselves. I know riot nerfed qss to push for more "teamwork" in regards to dealing with the zed but for a solo queue player, this is ridiculous.

I don't know what the lucian nerfs are but the whole reason behind him doing so well with is due to not only his kit synergizing with these items but the fact that they're so gold efficient. In my opinion, they should honestly target the items, specifically by making it more expensive or making the build path less gold efficient.