Let's get some things clear about Jax

Ahristocats··6 votes·2,201 views

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It's been years that Jax is garbage(yes garbage i won't use any other words, he may work in silver but i wonder why he is no longer picked in lcs? yeah i wonder why) despite him being buffed non-stop since season 4 or 5 i don't remember, he got straight up a billion of buffs in his kit passive buff, R resistances buffed multiple time, E cd, E mana cost, attack frame improved this champion is one of the most powered creeped champions i ever saw in league way better champions were released stealing his niche and doing it better

Yes, you got it Fiora is the worst offender a champion: good at dueling killing tanks hypercarry bringing A WAY FUCKING BETTER UTILITY can survive a teamfight and not getting blew up in 2 seconds

Let's start with the major problem. Jax is a hypercarry that can't kill tanks. Sure he can kill them after 15 seconds, and by that time the teamfight is already over and his entire team got destroyed because he wasn't able to do what he is supposed to do The reason to this is because he has absolutly 0 mechanics to kill tanks Vayne KogMaw %hp damage Fiora %hp true damage MasterYi true damage Yasuo Gangplank armor pen Tryndamere Riven+any other ranged hyper carries can build armor pen

Jax so what does he have? he's crippled because he does magical and physical damage at the same time, which is strong in mid game and falls off like a cliff in late game, which isn't intended for a hypercarry HE CAN'T EVEN BUY IT because he needs hybrid items he needs on-hit effects like sheen or bork, so why? why is everything made for jax to not even build item 3035 ? he can't even build item 3071 because of how inefficient it is with triforce and because of the amount of unneeded CDR (and it's giving even less AD on pbe)

Then his ulti is countered by armor/mr pene, any reasons for this? because a hyper carry is not expected to get destroyed **before even **doing its job, jax goes in and dies like a tank in late game while Yasuo Riven Gangplank Fiora MasterYi are all harder to kill because of shields/windwall/oranges/% damage reduction?

His E fails to protect him, all it does is forcing people to disengage instead of dealing with him, it still makes him weak against spells and the cooldown starts at when the spell ends FFS this punishes jax players to use the full duration of E as they will get the second stun latter in the fight making him bringing poor utility for his team His E is counterproductive, it's supposed to counter-strike but it doesn't counter-strike at all, it just strikes because you use it to stun and never to dodge because people will disengage and will never attack you while you're using E

So here are few things that need to be done: -bring back his old E without the RNG part, every 4 hits jax will become red for the next 5 seconds and dodge the first incomming attack, counter=the support attack him to disable it then in the next 2 seconds he can use E to stun (cd=8 seconds) -either turn jax into a diver and balances him around being a diver, or make him able to kill tanks to be a hyper carry

note: i'm not a jax main

20 Comments

VivaLaKitten2 votes

Jax is a fine champion though he's just over shadowed by champions who are too strong / reliable atm

FalconPawwwwnch6 votes

"He's okay, just pretend all these other champs don't exist"

VivaLaKitten1 votes

that's not at all what I'm saying or what it is Jax is a balanced, fine champion the fact that other champions exist doesn't change that whatsoever

PermabannedGaren2 votes

52% win rate in EUW diamond, 56.5% in Masters (with a fairly average pick rate), 57% in challenger with a mediocre to slightly low pick rate.

http://lolalytics.com/champion/Jax/

lolalytics seems to think he's doing all right, particularly in the jungle, which has been his better role for quite a while now, statistically speaking.

This champion is hardly dominating, but Jax is fine, balance-wise. He does need a rework to make him less of a point and click stat ball to give him some depth (and to better fulfill the fantasy of a hypercarry), but for now he's not particularly weak, nor particularly strong. He can build two and a half damage items and have roughly similar burst to Yasuo, who builds much more damage. This does come at the cost of his DPS versus tanks late game, which makes his power curve awkward. He's strong late game, being almost impossible to duel (he shits on Fiora for example), being relatively tanky, and having enough damage to easily kill carries, but he doesn't have the utility or tank-shredding of, say, Yasuo, making him less effective in team fights. I'd like a rework to more firmly cement him as a skirmisher, giving him more incentive to build largely damage items, giving him more inherent tank-killing steroids in his kit, and giving him a kit that was more versatile.

Oh, and Jax is much better at surviving team fights than Fiora. Fiora has a whopping 0.75 seconds of invulnerability to let her survive team fights. She doesn't get as many tank stats from her bases or her kit as Jax, nor does she build as much defense.

Ralanr1 votes

Or just rework him from the ground up because he could use new visuals anyway.

Ahristocats3 votes

his E needs a rework his R can use a rework

his Q and W are perfectly fine design wise and bring what he needs his passive can use a rework to increase his gameplay from rightclicking

Ralanr1 votes

I agree on the W because it's really very simple and hard to fuck up design wise. His Q...eh? There's nothing really wrong with it, but I think finding a way to make it skill shot based rather than point and click could allow his kit to get a power shift or something.

Less reliability, more overall power.

Ahristocats3 votes

what dahell did i read

making his Q a skillshot will increase his reliability by 100000 he doesn't need his Q damage, he will just press Q to dash on you slow you with items and kill you he will be able to escape ganks easily, and dash over walls easily

his Q being point and click is what balances him right now, if he isn't fast enough yuo can outrun him, if his Q is a skillshot he will dash non-stop to catch you

Ralanr1 votes

Never said it was a good idea.

GigaPube1 votes

luckily for him its been a snowball meta for the 3rd year in a row. lets hope these upcoming damage nerfs can do something about it

ACENOX1 votes

he's going to be slightly better, but bork will give less attack speed and jax needs attack speed

GULAG 4 U1 votes

Yi kills tanks not really just because of wuju style lol, but his DPS is prolly the highest in the game

Best princess EU1 votes

it kinda is the reason he kills them with his passive applying E yi will deal nearly 1500 true damage to them in late game with the AD ratio it will be 100 every hit and passive+natural high as of yi will shred tanks

TeeMo5591 votes

Highest DPS in game is Draven

Asayake 5150glow1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Dr Sona x Rubick,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=vaXY1Arv,comment-id=,timestamp=2017-02-09T21:05:44.096+0000) Fiora can survive a teamfight and not getting blew up in 2 seconds

ARE YOU FUCKING SERIOUS?

Downvoted for this, I'm sorry but that's just not true.

GULAG 4 U1 votes

0.75 seconds parry time

her defensive stats

Primaquarius1 votes

Jax with item 3111 item 3071 item 3025 item 3124 item 3022 item 3748

UnboundHades1 votes

7 months old gotta post a useless comment

Primaquarius1 votes

I had full boards in Recent, idk fam

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