When are you going to nerf Brand/Lux?

Trash MammaI··6 votes·1,721 views

Having "skillshots" that aren't even hard to land is not an excuse to instantly kill anybody touched by them.

Brand (especially in the bot lane) does far too much damage at all stages of the game. He needs to lose one of the parts of his passive. Doing a %max hp DoT and doing a burst of it as well is just stupid for someone who can AoE a team down on his own. What exactly did you want brand to be? A lane bully? A teamfight god? An assassin? I get he's immobile and should have a trade off for that but what you've given him is just far too much burst. Comparing him to someone similar would be veigar who typically if he lands his stun you usually get in free trades or a free kill. He has a very long window of opportunity to jump on (even when he's under tower) to bully when that stun is down. Brand does not have that opportunity in the bot lane and in mid lane it's insanely hard to punish due to brands retarded burst.

(I'll admit i'm a bit salty about my last game not so much about losing it but because despite being able to tank 4 people and live with a little over half an hp bar as sion I somehow was at 25% hp after taking 3 hits for brand that's just ridiculous that he's out damaging 4 people combined on his own and they had freaking OP champs ((rengar, syndra, kha,ezreal))

Lux is another person on this case. She lands a Q and boom dead. Yes, she's immobile and "skill(hah as if) shot" based. That's NOT an excuse to make them broken in every area you wanted them to be good in. With her double shield, aoe slow and double snare all on massively low CD's punishing her for missing a skillshot is nearly impossible unless they're just flat out stupid and run into melee range.

There is no way you found malzahar and Zyra an issue but you aren't touching brand or lux who are far worse. Malz was only dumb cause of his stupid new passive which could've easily been reverted and Zyra just needed her numbers fixed without hurting mid too much. These two on the other hand have far too much utility and damage with little to no drop back

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Critmaster Garen3 votes

neither brand nor lux deserve nerfs atm.

SoI invictus2 votes

Agreed!

TyrekGoldenspear1 votes

This. If anything Brand need slight changes to his kit to send him back to midlane.

Trash MammaI2 votes

1 person shouldn't be doing more damage than 4 people combined. Especially not to a tank and lux is just far too safe considering she doesn't fall off ever. No champ should be without risk but have high reward

TyrekGoldenspear1 votes

That's just it. Brand doesn't.

The only possible way is if you are all clumped up, he launches every spell, and all 5 of you explode while in close proximity.

Otherwise, if you split up when he tosses the ult, it's going to fizzle.

Gamer Life2 votes

No he doesnt Brand is fine how he is, if you dont no how to build agants ap, then you need to do your research

YokoNomi1 votes

Most skill shots aren't hard to land though. Why seclude a select few? I admit, some are more efficient than others, but if it happens to be a champion where that particular skill shot defines most (if not their whole) kit, it makes sense that they'd have an edge with it. Could you imagine how crippled Lee would be if his Q were nerfed? Sorry, probably poor choice of words.

Trash MammaI1 votes

It all depends on how you nerf it. Lee getting a longer CD on his Q for ex wouldn't nerf him too hard. Having an execute up so much is never a good thing. (Tis why Jhin is always so strong he gets an execute in his auto every 4 shots that's retardedly strong)

YokoNomi1 votes

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It all depends on how you nerf it. Lee getting a longer CD on his Q for ex wouldn't nerf him too hard. Having an execute up so much is never a good thing. (Tis why Jhin is always so strong he gets an execute in his auto every 4 shots that's retardedly strong)

Somewhat. He's definitely one of the better picks right now, but the source of his damage is also his Achilles heel, ironically enough. The biggest problem is there are definitely ways to nerf champions like either Lee or Jhin, without breaking the mold that makes them what they are. The other problem is, while this does require thinking outside of the box, Riot's team sometimes takes that a little too far, and is thinking in an entirely different continent.

Dancing Foxx1 votes

I don't play either of these characters but don't find either to be too oppressive either. Lux can be obnoxious though but I'm easily tilted by her laugh when she does something good lol.

ACTI0NBASTARD1 votes

Lux and massively low cds? Sure, at max rank with 40-45% cdr. Love the exaggerations.

Zane Zephyr1 votes

The only thing that I would really nerf about Lux is some portion of her E. It's neigh unavoidable ever since they made it so you can detonate it before it lands. Maybe some kind of a slight decrease of the circle or a small increase in travel speed would help.

sobi9991 votes

Lux has the most insane CD's ever and her mana issues are over the roof in early laning phase. Lux is so bad against tanks as once she has used up her burst she is a sitting duck. Brand needs to come really close to do his combo and to activate his passive (blaze) which hurts alot. I do agree that brand is really too strong in team fights especially that stupid point and click ult. I always disliked veig and his stun. That stun is the biggest aoe stun in the game maybe on par with mega gnar's Ult stun which is very hard to pull off because he is melee and obviously only mega gnar can use it.

davidmor941 votes

REALLY CLOSE??' HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAGAHAGHAHAGAHAA

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