Im sorry, but it doesnt say anywhere that I have to give up adc because you are in a duo with a support. My last game ! refused to give adc to the mid laner and he still tried to steal adc from me. He locks in Draven but I still go bot. He then goes mid but spam pings the whole game and flames. We ended up losing the game cause we had an all ad comp, and the duo tells the enemy team to report me for int feeding, when i was 4-8.
1wolfpack48 votesNice on you bro. Dont negotiate with terrorists and bullies. sometimes you have to take the loss, cause principle is worth more that a win/loss
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garren93 votesTerrorists? [zombie-brand-mindblown]
Pierce The Veal6 votesNice on you bro. Dont negotiate with terrorists and bullies. sometimes you have to take the loss, cause principle is worth more that a win/loss
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I'd rather have a win.
CeexSett7 votesMe too. What are principles worth in a videogame if you are stuck for at least 20 minutes with people who don't follow them?
Most of the times I just give my role to them and pray they don't make any more demands.
BLACK REALM GOD9 votesWhen you give in they will continue to make demands as they hold the game hostage. When you show that you're just as uncaring and sabotage the enemies plans for getting their way you'll soon learn sometimes you've got to lose a few hostages.
that was dark. I feel all tingly. For real though, when people start walking on you and you let them you're giving others reason to treat you like a floor. 1 loss will teach most people who make dumb decisions in this game like arguing for a role they didn't get. Refuse to give it to them let them know it's non-negotiable and if they flame you just mute them because they're not going to be any help to the team in chat at that point. Just play, do your best and report the player. If you and the rest of your team do or if the person gets into a few more games and misbehaves while also being reported they'll get some restrictions.
Starting lanes and team position is determined once you join the champ select. If you don't like what you get you can ask to swap - sure ask away, but don't expect anything. Ask nicely it will get you farther. Or you can leave. Two options.
Pierce The Veal1 votes[{quoted}](name=BLACK REALM GOD,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=vG6cigre,comment-id=0002000100000000,timestamp=2016-07-31T11:52:48.898+0000)
When you give in they will continue to make demands as they hold the game hostage. When you show that you're just as uncaring and sabotage the enemies plans for getting their way you'll soon learn sometimes you've got to lose a few hostages.
that was dark. I feel all tingly. For real though, when people start walking on you and you let them you're giving others reason to treat you like a floor. 1 loss will teach most people who make dumb decisions in this game like arguing for a role they didn't get. Refuse to give it to them let them know it's non-negotiable and if they flame you just mute them because they're not going to be any help to the team in chat at that point. Just play, do your best and report the player. If you and the rest of your team do or if the person gets into a few more games and misbehaves while also being reported they'll get some restrictions.
Starting lanes and team position is determined once you join the champ select. If you don't like what you get you can ask to swap - sure ask away, but don't expect anything. Ask nicely it will get you farther. Or you can leave. Two options.
If someone pulls a knife and asks for my wallet, I'm giving it to him, even though I'm highly trained in martial arts. It's only when he goes further that I would fight him. The risk of getting slashed or stabbed (losing lp) is worse than the risk of losing my wallet (my principles).
BLACK REALM GOD1 votesyou're comparing death - permanent and ultimately the worse thing that can happen to a person - to losing ip. think about that for a minute. your wallet would be the IP and losing your principles would be act of being killed. because without principles you're nothing.
BLACK REALM GOD1 votesand martial arts would be the ability to carry the game with janna.
Pierce The Veal1 votes[{quoted}](name=BLACK REALM GOD,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=vG6cigre,comment-id=0002000100000000000100000000,timestamp=2016-07-31T19:54:57.920+0000)
and martial arts would be the ability to carry the game with janna.
Lol.
Pierce The Veal1 votes[{quoted}](name=BLACK REALM GOD,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=vG6cigre,comment-id=000200010000000000010000,timestamp=2016-07-31T19:54:09.880+0000)
you're comparing death - permanent and ultimately the worse thing that can happen to a person - to losing ip. think about that for a minute. your wallet would be the IP and losing your principles would be act of being killed. because without principles you're nothing.
Ahem, LP.
If you really believe in principles over life, then so be it. I'll be the cockroach that takes my revenge eventually.
BLACK REALM GOD1 votesOh that was a lowercase L? I and l are very similar on my phone. Either way it's still your wallet. The difference is how much money you have in it. IP would be a wallet filled with coupons. LP would be like... A $100 bill that you were going to use to pay for dinner with a date.
EDIT* and principles aren't being chosen over life. They ARE life. If you don't have principles you're a shell of a person. Or as you so eloquently put it - "a cockroach".
Pierce The Veal1 votes[{quoted}](name=BLACK REALM GOD,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=vG6cigre,comment-id=00020001000000000001000000010000,timestamp=2016-07-31T20:20:01.965+0000)
Oh that was a lowercase L? I and l are very similar on my phone. Either way it's still your wallet. The difference is how much money you have in it. IP would be a wallet filled with coupons. LP would be like... A $100 bill that you were going to use to pay for dinner with a date.
Yeah I use mobile too so I realized my mistake quickly x.x
Meh, it's 100 dollars, worth less than my skin not having a scratch from such an encounter. I'll hand over my wallet, then break his neck if he so much as tries anything else.
Oakleaf Ranger2 votesevil triumphs when good people do nothing
Pierce The Veal1 votesevil triumphs when good people do nothing
An eye for an eye blinds the world.
Oakleaf Ranger3 votesThis aint revenge, this is what doing whats right vs wrong.
Pierce The Veal1 votesThis aint revenge, this is what doing whats right vs wrong.
I'll just delay doing what's right until I can do it in full force.
Oakleaf Ranger1 votesYou can go about it that way I guess, I prefer the more direct route where they can't believe and are outraged that I didn't do as they demanded.
BLACK REALM GOD1 votesEdit* With great power comes great responsibility Peter.
PROJECT Katarìna1 votesI rathered get stabbed or shot before I let some scumbag filth get away with it just to do it again to another person but hey that just me and my own opinion.
Pierce The Veal1 votes[{quoted}](name=God of Ascension,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=vG6cigre,comment-id=000200010000000000010002,timestamp=2016-08-01T18:08:29.301+0000)
I rathered get stabbed or shot before I let some scumbag filth get away with it just to do it again to another person but hey that just me and my own opinion.
I'd rather live uninjured so I can have a greater effect than just being canon fodder.
PROJECT Katarìna1 votesI practice my 2nd amendment because of filth like this in the world
Pierce The Veal1 votes[{quoted}](name=God of Ascension,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=vG6cigre,comment-id=00020001000000000001000200000000,timestamp=2016-08-01T23:13:53.640+0000)
I practice my 2nd amendment because of filth like this in the world
I'd rather know how to use a gun, but not use one. Pulling a gun just makes it that much more likely that you'll be attacked in a confrontation.
PROJECT Katarìna1 votesyou dont know when a guys gonna pull a knife out, if I feel like my life or someone else close to me is in danger I will pull out my gun ofc I wont just shoot/kill them uneedlessly I am a human being not a animal.
Pierce The Veal1 votes[{quoted}](name=God of Ascension,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=vG6cigre,comment-id=0002000100000000000100020000000000000000,timestamp=2016-08-02T02:49:36.355+0000)
you dont know when a guys gonna pull a knife out, if I feel like my life or someone else close to me is in danger I will pull out my gun ofc I wont just shoot/kill them uneedlessly I am a human being not a animal.
Significant evidence suggests that the victim pulling a gun results in the victim's injury more often than not. I'd rather lay low and let him take my wallet unless he will legitimitely kill someone if I don't.
PROJECT Katarìna1 votesThats not fair I make a post about the same thing and I get downvoted
Elikain20 votesDoesn't matter if they report you or not. The truth is that they stole the role and picked someone that can't fill theirs in order to force you to play something else and that loss is entirely their fault + disrupting the game. And all because they think being in a premade trumps everything else. Just a reminder to those assholes cirklejerking the boards - Riot still punishes people. #The unseen report is the deadliest. http://imgur.com/oTjpBiY.png[/img]
Nhifu2 votesDuo's can troll all they want. Riot really doesn't punish trolling as hard as they punish people that are toxic. So now all you really need to do is troll, keep a nice score and never type. LOL
Elikain1 votesAll forms of toxicity is generally called "disrupting the game". Whether you decide to use the chat or do it through your actions alone, your days are numbered.
Chat offences are easier to identify and detecting certain behavior is a bit tougher. But both options get punished and that depends on the severity and frequency of the offences. Repeating offenders give Riot more and more information with each game that builds a report card against them. In certain cases, you may even choose to report a player directly to Riot Support in order to put them on Riot's radar, if you know what he has done has been against the strictest of rules but you know the action was probably going to be used rarely - and therefore go undetected for a time.
Dynikus10 votesWhile what they did was very rude and stupid, you going bot after he locked draven probably screwed your team over and cost you the game. The best thing to do there is either dodge because you know they're going to be toxic, or take one for the team, let the duo go bot, and take mid.
Happy team mates are good team mates, so usually if someone asks me to swap roles with them, so long as it's a role I can play proficiently, I'll do it.
A Basic Island17 votesWhile what they did was very rude and stupid, you going bot after he locked draven probably screwed your team over and cost you the game. The best thing to do there is either dodge because you know they're going to be toxic, or take one for the team, let the duo go bot, and take mid.
Happy team mates are good team mates, so usually if someone asks me to swap roles with them, so long as it's a role I can play proficiently, I'll do it.
uh no
you lock in what you want and punish the duo so they learn. You don't give into them because this just feeds into them doing it again
Ruin the game if you must but never give in
Dynikus7 votesWhat's more important, attempting to punish a duo who most likely won't take anything away from the lesson you were trying to teach them, resulting in losing the game for yourself, the two other players you were matched with, and that duo, or just cooperating with the assholes and reporting them at the end of the game for not working with the team, but possibly winning the match, then never seeing them again?
In scenario 1, your entire team gets punished for the actions of two jackasses. In scenario 2, no one but possibly that duo gets punished.
A Basic Island6 votesWhat's more important, attempting to punish a duo who most likely won't take anything away from the lesson you were trying to teach them, resulting in losing the game for yourself, the two other players you were matched with, and that duo, or just cooperating with the assholes and reporting them at the end of the game for not working with the team, but possibly winning the match, then never seeing them again?
In scenario 1, your entire team gets punished for the actions of two jackasses. In scenario 2, no one but possibly that duo gets punished.
pissing a duo off is a reward in itself. It's a win, so even tho you lost the game it evens out.
Tobias Brackner5 votesFuck the duo. Obviously they want to play 3 bot.
Report and move on.
Sozan54 votesIt's way more important to punish the duo.
If everybody will stand up to the bullies and never give up roles to them then the bullies will stop trying.
Giving up is the worst you can do.
rtbf761092715 votesThis is an awful suggestion because it's being a pushover allowing dicks to get what they want just becuase they are dicks. It's rewarding people for awful behaviour, if they lock an in adc somewhere and demand you swap.
The REAL solution to the problem is having less duo queues trying to bully and flame thier way into thier desired roles.
TheRealBaz2 votesWhile what they did was very rude and stupid, you going bot after he locked draven probably screwed your team over and cost you the game. The best thing to do there is either dodge because you know they're going to be toxic, or take one for the team, let the duo go bot, and take mid.
Happy team mates are good team mates, so usually if someone asks me to swap roles with them, so long as it's a role I can play proficiently, I'll do it.
you can also report for role stealing
theDeblin6 votesIf the duo wanted bot, they would have queued as bot/supp and supp/bot respectively.
If they queued anything else, they were willing to play something other than the bottom duo, and they can bug off.
inplane3 votesIf the duo wanted bot, they would have queued as bot/supp and supp/bot respectively.
If they queued anything else, they were willing to play something other than the bottom duo, and they can bug off.
Wont the system say that someone needs to swap roles because that setup doesn't cover enough roles? If it doesn't then I don't know why this Duo queue thing is still an issue lol.
Mr Fidori1 votesYou literally cannot do this. The client will not let you.
LuxannaVeritas4 votesThis is true. Premades aren't in charge.
Do you also notice that premades also take each other's sides? I ask my mid laner to come group with the team, but sadly I forgot that my top laner was in a premade with him. In the end, I get flamed by 2 people, when in reality no one should be flaming.
ALSO, if a premade tries to ask the other team to report you, they let their guard down. ASKING ANYONE TO REPORT SOMEONE IS A REPORTABLE OFFENSE!
BLACK REALM GOD1 votesi didnt know that. that's pretty cool. i've seen gang reports done so much in league that i thought that it wasnt. so that is harassment then? awesome. i know what im going to do next time someone tries to bully me into doing what they want. is it a reportable offense when the enemies reply back with "yes"?
LuxannaVeritas1 votesHmm... the post made by the Rioter I saw didn't mention anything about the people who agree. I say that you can decide if you report people who say "Yes" or not.
But yeah, gang reports is a form of harassment and negative behavior. It only takes one report for someone to review the game, so asking for more people to report is just unnecessary and rude.
BLACK REALM GOD1 votesmakes sense. i'll keep that in mind.
Tobias Brackner3 votesThose people are assholes, report them and move on.
Jeannes2 votesThat Loss was on you. He locked in and you were determined to bot. In the end you didn't want to win, you wanted bot.
I had a non-similar game where someone couldn't get top and then didn't want the support they chose so instead of staying ashe while everyone locked, he chose Cho'gath. Died twice, left. We somehow Won 4vs5 and I hope he got reported into the dark dimension.
Xeruon8 votesIf our roles are so easily forfeit, then what's the point of picking them before even getting into champ select? This is the mentality that allows immature kids like this to keep thinking that they can always get whatever they want. That simply isn't the case.
ESeTyRC2 votesRoles each player received upon entering champ select should be shown for both teams at the end-game screen.
It'd be pretty damn easy to tell who the problem players were.
QweraRandolphz2 votesThey should really add an exception to theh system duo bots always get bot together
SlashStriker1 votes[{quoted}](name=Lissandra OP,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=vG6cigre,comment-id=,timestamp=2016-07-30T20:58:45.742+0000)
Im sorry, but it doesnt say anywhere that I have to give up adc because you are in a duo with a support. My last game ! refused to give adc to the mid laner and he still tried to steal adc from me. He locks in Draven but I still go bot. He then goes mid but spam pings the whole game and flames. We ended up losing the game cause we had an all ad comp, and the duo tells the enemy team to report me for int feeding, when i was 4-8.
then you fkin lock in Cait or whichever other ADC you like to play a learn to play other lanes and if someone start shittalk to you mute everyone and play your game. Try Vayne jungle for instance. Just try her. Or get Cait and play her mid lane or top lane. Being solo may increase your awareness. It might even make you better ADC
He locked draven. What can you do about it? You lock your champ and play them somewhere else with not gving a single fk about Draven or anyone on the team. Then you can block and report the duos for unsportsman behavior and verbal abuse and they will get what they deserve
DarkRitual7 votesIf you do that, the Draven won their fight for the role.
You lock your adc, go bot, and report the Draven in post-game. That's how you should handle it IMO.
