Tibbers as a Core Mechanic of Annie's kit?

The Ecdysiast·Nov 25, 2015·2 votes·379 views

I don't know, I just... I just feel like Tibbers is a little lack-luster. Explaining to a new player, I told her that Annie drops a bear that deals lots of damage... but then I had to say that the massive flaming bear just sorta slaps people when it's on your side for the next minute and a half.

It'd be cool if they did a rework that switched her from being completely reliant on her passive to do anything at all, and instead made Tibbers actually important enough to force the enemy team to target him instead (like how Heim's turrets do the real damage).

But I don't want her to be completely useless without Tibbers, so not too much of her damage should come from him, just enough to make him an issue in fights.

9 Comments

Aeolian MelodiesNov 26, 20151 votes

Tibbers early on is actually tanky enough and does enough damage to zone the ADC on its own which is kind of an aberration.

ShaftyMegeeNov 26, 20151 votes

Uuuhhhh.... tibbers is badass. He has shit loads of hp when annie is lvl6, and he has an auto attack PLUS AA sunfires.... oh and if you activate annie's E it gives it a mini thornmail

The EcdysiastNov 27, 20151 votes

Since when the hell is just HP and the ability to auto (which everything in the game has) cool?

MartyrofsandNov 27, 20152 votes

I think it's more then "from an explosion erupts a massive flaming bear of doom that kills you just for being in it's presence" that qualifies as "cool."

If you are wanting to talk about remaking Annie to be focused on Tibbers then you are talking about a complete overhaul of her kit to where she would have Tibber pre-6, otherwise she would be irrelevant pre-6. Frankly being a "bear mage" doesn't fit her lore. She was a prodigy mage who just so happened to capture Tibbers and turn him into a teddy bear that she can all on for help. Tibbers is a faithful companion but Annie has always been a badass sorceress child who others fear will become to strong when she grows older, not "bear mage" line riot tried to feed a while back....granted I didn't mind the small buffs she got because they wanted to feed that line but frankly I hope she never changes from what she currently is.

The EcdysiastNov 27, 20151 votes

Yeah that's what I mean.

As it is now, you really don't need Tibbers. Her ultimate could JUST be a big explosion, without a bear involved, the way it is now.

MartyrofsandNov 27, 20151 votes

Kind of missing the "kills you for being in its presence" thing that tibbers adds to her ult.

The EcdysiastNov 27, 20151 votes

Except it's really just "does a little damage that ONLY immobile champions will be taking, and can actually heal anyone with lifesteal more than it damages."

lolipopevelynnNov 27, 20151 votes

tibbers is pretty broken if u get rylais and liandries... champs that are immobile simply cant get away from him at that point, and he slows entire teams for a full minute. its really good.

ive gotten so many kills off tibbers "slapping" people with those two items in the past. the perma slow should not be underestimated.

The EcdysiastNov 27, 20151 votes