is her MS steroid. why does she need it? just to poke you then get away with it when you try to trade back knowing she slows you + can shield to deny some of the damage?
Funny how her Q CD feels like 1 SEC that deals loads of damage.
Sire Hippington13 votesThe ms boost is hardly relevant for trades, if she uses her W for that, she's not useing it for damage(unless you sit ontop of her) so she blows her main nuke for utillity. The bigger issue with orianna is her overall damage early on. Her W should have less damage rank one but same at maxrank, so her poke and short trades are weaker unless she maxes W over Q, which would hurt her dps for extendet trades and her abillity to reposition the ball. I also wouldn't be opposed to nerfs on her shield at early ranks, makeing her take some more return damage in trades unles she's willing to sacrifice some damage by putting extra points into her shield.
But right now, she wins short trades with Q+W+shield, but also extendet trades thx to AA+passive and her low cd Q while haveing waveclear and ranged harras, which makes it really hard to beat her in lane, all while scaleing massive into teamfights.
KoKoboto2 votesMeh its on a 5s CD with cdr so its not that bad
KuroCaliber5 votesIt's a pretty small area of effect, and I'd be more in favor of increasing early q Mana cost.
Wukong Airlines1 votesIt's not the area, it's the trade, she Qs you, slows then recast and gets shield + MS when you try to approach her to Q you again and double trade you.
KuroCaliber17 votesIf she's casting w on herself for Ms, she's losing a lot of her damage in trades. Also her q damage is decreased if you're not the first unit hit by it, so minions and pets are to your advantage
Ahri Body Pillow2 votesWait what the fuck I didn't know that
OyddAWqJ5r4 votesI don't think you're as familiar with ori as u think...
DunkinNoobs3 votesShe's a short ranged immobile mage with her only hard CC on her ult and she needs to W at her feet to even get the MS boost. Give me a break man.
Clementine3 votesLulu circlejerk = nerfed Ahri circlejerk = nerfed Lee circlejerk = nerfed Orianna circlejer = probably going to get nerfed somehow
ZT Xperimentor2 votesToo bad marksmen are immune thanks to double standards.
TotalJerk2 votesCalling it now: Riot is going to shit on her favorite items, make all of her counters FotM, and nerf her good matchups out of the meta.
Kloqdq3 votesI would say it's a couple other reasons that make Orianna finds a lot of success. It mostly comes down to her control in lane. If you really wanted to nerf Ori and hit her hard it's a shield nerf, attack speed nerf or a Q mana cost nerf. Any of those three options would hurt ori in a variety of ways.
Swarovsko3 votesThe problem with Orianna imo is 
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and her E. Morello gives her lots of AP with 20% CD + a shit ton of mana and many ways to regenerate it. I'm pretty sure if they changed this stupid item she would be less oppressive during the laning phase.
They need to 1) nerf her Q touching her mana costs or 2) rework Morello and AP items in general since AP itemization (and the MYMU changes) are comparable to a trash can.
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Chaos Milk Tea2 votesUm Her W is the one that deals all the damage. The q chips you at best.
Also w costs like 60-110 mana or something crazy. If it is being used solely for movement its a waste of mana.
Also yeah, q is like 1 sec in late game. Has to be or her kit straight up doesnt function.
RavenMagus1 votesI'd say it's more the shield that's ridiculous. Especially since you can't really outplay it by timing for when she's just thrown the ball, because it snaps back to her very quick on a self-shield.
Makes it basically impossible to do anything to her if you're a melee assassin. (Unless you're AD, I guess, in which you can just build Duskblade?)
Alex h87211 votesImo Ori's problem is that she's way too strong as a generalist mage (rito has supposedly said they don't like generalists that are too strong). Let me explain, She is supposedly a control mage (similar to annivia), w/ her aoe slow/shockwave and using the ball to zone the enemy laner away from CS/enemy team away from objectives. Ok, fair enough.
But wait theres more, on top of her zoning she has a high amount of utility w/ an MS boost and a single target shield that scales very well, Oh and empowered auto's to help w/ dueling/skirmishes b/c why not?
Imo Ori is not too far out of line, just a bit too strong of a generalist which makes her i highly contested pick in high elo where people can make the most of her large toolkit, and nerfing the shield scaling a bit (or reducing its effectiveness when used on allies, to make her a bit more selfish) could be a decent way to bring her more in line with other viable midlane picks.
l Dárius l1 votesshe doesnt. that champ is fucking cancer.
nm10101 votesBack when she was solely a utility mage you would focus on e'ing your adc and w'ing to speed them up/slow down divers.
I Main Swain1 votesher movement speed boost? honestly if an ori is using her w just to give her a little speed boost so she can poke you slightly better with her q, shes playing VERY wrong. first of all if shes trying to poke (and assuming she's going to use her w at all" she'll either q w you or she'll q e w to boost herself away safely to prevent counterpoke. as far as the movement speed boost itself its much more used for things like speeding a tank up so they can better initiate a fight or speed up your team to get to an objective faster, something along those lines.
arc951 voteswhat bothers me about her is her kit is overloaded her damage is insane her dps is monstrous (for a mage)... she's incredibly safe... has the strongest ability in the game... and can single handily win a game even at the highest level of play
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is her MS steroid. why does she need it? just to poke you then get away with it when you try to trade back knowing she slows you + can shield to deny some of the damage?
Funny how her Q CD feels like 1 SEC that deals loads of damage.
Q doesn't do that much damage, especially when you are in front of minions where her Q damage is reduced.
Also, her MS boost is a decaying buff/slow and it's not really that fast.