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Caitlyn is going to drop into the 40% area win rate with this

Rexxiee·May 23, 2017·4 votes·1,164 views

Attack Speed Base attack speed lowered from 0.568 to 0.521 - pic. [Attack Delay changed from 0.1 to 0.2] [Passive attack speed bonus increased from 10% to [20%?] Headshot (P) ~ "Headshot no longer stacks multiple times per attack with Hurricane." -src.

Like what the hell?

Isnt destroying the best item she can build already too much? No you have to make her AS as bad as jhin/graves but she doesnt get 800 AD like jhin just for existing or 500 damage autos with 1 damage item like graves and increasing her attack delay? What kind of bullshit nerf is this? Do you want to make her feel so bad to play that nobody wants to play her anymore?

Like i dont even know if im going to buy PF caitlyn anymore as whats the point if they are going to completely olaf the champ /make it unplayable? This shit is better get reverted, i dont want another tristana.

More important, why the fuck does cait get hit by a sledgehammer while lucian gets a total of 20+ mana on his Q?????????? Lucian sees play on fucking mid lane due to how broken he is atm and all he gets is that, meanwhile caitlyn gets nuked from the orbit.

35 Comments

xJLx MCHammerMay 23, 20177 votes

I was playing Anivia yesterday.

Late game, a Cait flashes and AA'ed me for 2187 damage. Go check it out if you don't believe me.

I had 2500 hp as anivia with full build. If I had stepped on a trap, I'm pretty sure I would be dead in 1 hit...

RexxieeMay 23, 20171 votes

[{quoted}](name=xJLx MCHammer,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=v2Ty4VIE,comment-id=0007,timestamp=2017-05-23T15:20:42.445+0000)

I was playing Anivia yesterday.

Late game, a Cait flashes and AA'ed me for 2187 damage. Go check it out if you don't believe me.

I had 2500 hp as anivia with full build. If I had stepped on a trap, I'm pretty sure I would be dead in 1 hit...

6 item ad is supposed to do damage, wow.

DurzakaMay 23, 20172 votes

That could have been any ADC. Not really sure what your point is

KONO RUBICK DAMay 23, 20175 votes

jhin dropped to 46% win rate and you still called him broken afterward for 1 month

time for caitlyn to get the same treatment

TyrekGoldenspearMay 23, 20175 votes

Hmm. Needs a little more nerf.

Jhin needs to be at a 44% winrate.

RalanrMay 23, 20175 votes

Oh the price of perfection.

TyrekGoldenspearMay 23, 20175 votes

Art is worth the pain.

ABlueQuakerMay 23, 20171 votes

The Passive change is dumb. If Riot wants to make a stance like this they may as well remove Hurricane from the game because it's only bought on champions who have some sort of on-hit interaction with it.

I mean, as it is I usually go ER PD on Caitlyn anyway because I don't actually trust teammates to peel for me/be generally competent but taking away the option is just dumb.

RalanrMay 23, 20172 votes

Taking away the option that requires you to not rely on your teammates to peel for you as the class that is designed to be mainly protected by their team so they can skimp on defense and go full offense is dumb?

Sounds like it's more trying to say, "Team, the ADC needs your help. Peel for them."

KONO RUBICK DAMay 23, 20173 votes

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it's only bought on champions who have some sort of on-hit interaction with it.

escuse me? it's bought on every single bloody crit adc

it gives one of the best stat in an adc item applies lifesteal applies BORK applies crit

tristana builds it and doesn't get anything out of it same for kindred

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I mean, as it is I usually go ER PD on Caitlyn anyway because I don't actually trust teammates to peel for me

that build is garbage, and you don't need peel anyway with cait

traps are almost invisible in a bush if you attack from them you can E+W a target you have 650 range

caitlyn is like the champion that dies last in a teamfight in high elo

EuthenaasiaMay 23, 20171 votes

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escuse me? it's bought on every single bloody crit adc

it gives one of the best stat in an adc item applies lifesteal applies BORK applies crit

tristana builds it and doesn't get anything out of it same for kindred

that build is garbage, and you don't need peel anyway with cait

traps are almost invisible in a bush if you attack from them you can E+W a target you have 650 range

caitlyn is like the champion that dies last in a teamfight in high elo

uh kindreds on hit % dmg passive applies.

KONO RUBICK DAMay 23, 20171 votes

then any adc will buy it as they all have bork

the only one that will not buy it are adcs like lucian that needs to get AD to burst with spells

JoxcabMay 23, 20172 votes

Are you trolling or are you actually this ignorant about League?

Hurricane is extremely powerful. The passive stacking was fucking bullshit.

Over InnsmouthMay 23, 20174 votes

Good.

RexxieeMay 23, 20173 votes

[{quoted}](name=Tides of Blood,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=v2Ty4VIE,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2017-05-23T14:22:53.154+0000)

Good.

Yeah good to remove a champ for the game right?

Im sure you'd love it if that happened to your main.

RalanrMay 23, 20173 votes

He mains Vlad. So it's happened before for him.

TheGoomyGamerMay 23, 20172 votes

Remove a champ from the game? Strong champ gets nerfed. Deal with it

JoxcabMay 23, 20174 votes

Or wow, cancer might finally balanced!

Big LincolnMay 23, 20174 votes

she's had her time in the spotlight

RalanrMay 23, 20171 votes

You just love to get others riled up, don't you?

TyrekGoldenspearMay 23, 20172 votes

It's his hobby.

If the boards was an anime Lincoln would be the edgy antihero that gets on peoples nerves but whose heart is in the right place.

RalanrMay 23, 20172 votes

Edgy antihero? I assume he'd be the troll in the back of the class that only exists to spout off one liners that piss people off.

Like me, irl.

TyrekGoldenspearMay 23, 20172 votes

He is only promoted to edgy anti hero becuase he often has good advice layered beneath that salt.

Big LincolnMay 23, 20172 votes

yes

RalanrMay 23, 20172 votes

I don't think Jhin gets 800AD with his lethality/Cleaver build (idk his current meta build though).

That being said, Caitlyn has been pretty powerful for a while and nerfs were expected eventually. From what I can tell, they want to make her mid game an actual weak point, not something you can avoid if you snowball (which lead to the impression that she had no weak phase because of how hard she could snowball early).

RexxieeMay 23, 20173 votes

{quoted}

I don't think Jhin gets 800AD with his lethality/Cleaver build (idk his current meta build though).

That being said, Caitlyn has been pretty powerful for a while and nerfs were expected eventually. From what I can tell, they want to make her mid game an actual weak point, not something you can avoid if you snowball (which lead to the impression that she had no weak phase because of how hard she could snowball early).

Runnan nerfs already does that.

The base as and attack delay nerf makes her worse (and not only worse by numbers, it also makes her feel worse) at every stage of the game after lvl 1, her late game is also not going to be good anymore with that shit base as + no runnans interaction.

Basically shes going to be another tristana, just complete overnerfed dogshit.

RalanrMay 23, 20172 votes

Then potentially those could get reverted or they won't effect her winrate as poorly as you predict when the patch hits live.

RexxieeMay 23, 20173 votes

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Then potentially those could get reverted or they won't effect her winrate as poorly as you predict when the patch hits live.

Hope you enjoy seeing lucian every game as now hes goign to be by far the strongest adc in the game, as the only adc that could match him is getting gutted.

RalanrMay 23, 20172 votes

I mean, if I only have to worry about banning one adc, then I'm not going to have that big of a problem.

Plus the mana touches may hurt his Bork build ability spam.

Edit: also, by that logic doesn't it mean that few to no ADCs could stand up against Caitlyn?

AarinMay 23, 20172 votes

League is impressing me, nerfing Cait before her skin is out. They earned my respect, they would of made more money I'm positive, if they didn't nerf her.

fuffychanMay 23, 20172 votes

And all these trash kids on the forum will celebrate.

Caitlyn will join Kalista and Kindred in the dumpster

NahuiMay 23, 20171 votes

She needs a nerf, sorry. You don't nerf champions to be perfectly balanced, not the ones that were overpowered at least. You nerf them into the ground, or at least sub-50 win rate so people stop playing her as much and pick up other champions, then you buff her a little later and she returns to normal. If you nerf her to normal, no one really drops her unless another massive OP shines, and nothing changes.

SpeeedyMay 23, 20171 votes

the passive change is kinda needed, when she gets HS like every 2-3 autos for a ton of damage thats a problem, the biggest change that will kill her is the attack delay since it was already slow. Riot did the opposite change to lucian and look where that put him.

BigBellBruteMay 23, 20171 votes

Ivern could brush her anywhere and with hurricane, she'd turn into a headshot machine gun.

RalanrMay 23, 20171 votes

That combo just turns the rift into Vietnam.

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