Assassin Ahri was the closest League had to a healthy assassin- look at her for assassin designs?

TheUltimateSpear··5 votes·1,052 views

TL;DR at the bottom.

It's something that just occured to me today. Think about it. Why are assassins frustrating? It's usually for the following reasons.

  • Huge damage with no counterplay: damage that's targeted and/or technically missable but still very easy to hit. (Akali Diana Talon )
  • Extremely forgiving mobility abilities means you can't kill / punish them. ( Fizz Ekko Leblanc Zed )
  • Untargetability (Fizz )
  • Waveclearing that's a little way to good for an assassin. (Zed )
  • Assassins which can kill you before it's LITERALLY PHYSICALLY POSSIBLE for you to react. (Rengar )

BUT I DIGRESS.

Anyways, the above points can be summarized with the following :** There is no window for you to fight back against the assassin.** Even if they make a mistake, most can poof off. And those who can't disengage easily have ASININE damage even for assassins, and have a lot of damage that is impossible to avoid.

But the assassin Ahri, from patch 3.13 to patch 5.4, wasn't like that. She had to 2 CLEAR levers of power opponents could work around. Her Charm and her Ult, Spirit Rush.

Charm used to amp Ahri's damage by 20%. Charm had, and still has, a 12 second cooldown and costs 85 mana. If Ahri missed, she was vulnerable because of the high mana cost, moderately high cooldown, and the significant lost in damage output to a single target.

Ahri's Ult, Spirit Rush was not changed at all from 3.13 until her second mini rework in patch 5.4. HOWEVER, her Q also didn't have that insane movement speed burst attached to it. Spirit Rush was Ahri's only mobility. This means Ahri was vulnerable to ganks without it. Not only that, but with Spirit Rush on cooldown, Ahri was not able to chase you to kingdom come and kill you.

Ever played against a competent Leblanc or Fizz as an immobile mage? Even if you land your Syndra stun there's still a good chance they can catch up to you and just throw themselves on top of you for the kill.

...If Ahri was ganked or made a mistake and had to Ult away, you actually had a meaningful amount of time to breathe in the lane. It sucks to be in lane vs a Fizz and land your spells on him only for him to troll pole away and have the pressure of his mobility spell 10 seconds later. Same with Leblanc or Zed.

TL;DR: Assassin Ahri had two levers on her power: her reliance on her skillshot Charm's damage amp, and the strong but very conditional mobility of her ultimate. She had windows of downtime the enemy could exploit, unlike the other assassins in League. In the future, Riot could benefit from looking at Assassin Ahri when trying to create assassin champions, because she was actually fair to fight against.

Discuss? Ahri

5 Comments

SwapShadows2 votes

Assassins are unfun to play against because pretty much every single assassin in the game except Zed relies on insanely fast non-reactant combos that have a lot of power tucked into point and click abilities (Zed's ult is point and click but by itself it does almost nothing). The problem is that too many people who don't know what they are talking about like to voice their opinions and spread false information such as people who claim energy on Zed is beneficial when in reality if Zed had mana he would become immensely stronger and lose his downtime after comboing at the cost of maybe having a slightly worse laning phase while gaining much more power throughout other stages.

also assassin ahri was pretty disgusting just fyi.....

Aeolian Melodies1 votes

Assassin Ahri was 100% reliant on an item that was broken by design (DFG).

Troiann1 votes

I like how you say zed has too good of waveclear, yet his waveclear is worse than ahri's.

Anyways, while Ahri was definitely not as horrible to face as akali when she was actually good, I do not believe she is any more healthy than Zed, and that is because she can double as a mage, who can sit in the back and stay literally untouchable in teamfights with basically three flashes and an hourglass, as well as hard CC that has the travel time of a zed Q.

Personally I feel like zed is the poster boy for healthy assassin. I would like to be biased and say Rengar and talon are next in lane, but I know they're not really all that fun to play against. You can check, I've played roughly 50k of Rengar worth of mastery points in the last 2 weeks. Absolutely loved him and wanted to be just like dekar. But I can admit he's horribly gimped, literally everything about him is worthless except his ability to oneshot. And you can't remove that without reworking him. Mostly because Riot basically removed everything else that was useful in his kit.

Leblanc, Fizz, Ekko, Diana, Akali. Maybe ekko is slightly better, the problem with him is he's overloaded with a fuck ton of utility that's utter bullshit to deal with. Diana, way too tanky to be even considered an assassin with that kind of shield, utter bullshit. Akali, like Rengar, has nothing to offer to her team except the ability to kill and stick to a target reliably, no matter what said target tries to do. Leblanc and Fizz don't even need explaining.

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