because I honestly think its a lot better to have vision of your Red side from being invaded than your blue side most of the time.
You also have Mid taking Wolves a lot less than Chickens, which benefits the jungler in solo queue.
BakugoBestBoy7 votesI'm actually completely for this simply because the chicken camp is too easily accessible by the enemy mid, and when literally every time I smite them to pick up the buff and immediately burn my true sight on a fking trinket they placed in my chicken camp... UGH. It's so annoying. I mean it's a good strat but it's so low risk for the enemy mid and it makes you waste your smite for no reason.
ValyrianBlade4 votesI wouldn't mind this. I mean, first, them putting the ward there means they know you're there. You getting the bonus isn't wasted, you now know they know you're at wraiths. Second, it means they didn't put that ward somewhere else. So either mid is wasting an extra 75g on a ward every time you go to wraiths, or they don't have somewhere else warded. Finally, it isn't exactly risk free, especially if you still have mid tower up... Perhaps you should be throwing your own ward at the back of your red and collapsing on them when they try to ward your wraiths.
Anyways, I'm arguing because I like it at raptors (obviously). I play blue dependent junglers, so I start blue. Which means I do red second, and raptors before my first gank. It would be less efficient for me at wolves. More importantly though, this may bring balance to the dragon/Baron inequality that used to exist, and switching with wolves may bring back and increase that inequality.
What I mean is, blue has easier access to Baron. Red has easier access to Dragon. With the position of wraith camps, the team with harder access has closer access to vision via wraiths - so they can grab wraiths and run by the pit and clear any wards. If you put it on wolves, I'd expect purple to have a large Dragon advantage and blue to have a large Baron advantage.
BakugoBestBoy5 votesNo, they're sitting mid, and it doesn't cost them anything to burn their trinket to screw me over. And when they see me do my chickens they now know where I am so the trinket isn't wasted for them either. They get to know my position/know my smite is down/remove my ability to help with vision control/and piss me off, all for the low low cost of free. And depending on the jungler there is a huge safety window EVERYONE knows about now where the jungler backs for their jungle item and the laners have barely had time to take harass yet, much less need to back.
Jamnon1 votesAgree this is retarded. Not much else to add to that.
McCashDollars1 votesPerhaps you should be throwing your own ward at the back of your red and collapsing on them when they try to ward your wraiths.
Umm, pardon me, but I believe the correct phrasing would be "when they try to ward your chickens."
Killstrado3 votesOmg chickens! From now on that's what I'm calling them lol up vote fo sho
Kingsgrave2 votesOmg chickens! From now on that's what I'm calling them lol up vote fo sho
Chickens...of death.
SOS Tsubaki2 votesGood idea in my opinion. Plus, when I go to counter-jungle and punish the enemy for ganking I usually try and take red-side camps.
Salron2 votesYou would have to buff the wolves and nerf the chickens Seriously those guys hit like a freaking truck if you're not an AoE jungler
Kingsgrave3 votesYou would have to buff the wolves and nerf the chickens Seriously those guys hit like a freaking truck if you're not an AoE jungler
Chickens hurt a lot primarily to stop mid laners from being able to do them ever.
Salron1 votesChickens hurt a lot primarily to stop mid laners from being able to do them ever.
Doesn't justify them dealing that much damage to junglers Besides Laners get less gold from the jungle in patch 4.21 so the Razorbeaks could use a lovetap nerf Primarily the small ones. I haven't checked in game yet but someone told me they out damage the large one when combined which really sucks for single target champs
Kingsgrave1 votesChickens hurt a lot primarily to stop mid laners from being able to do them ever.
Doesn't justify them dealing that much damage to junglers Besides Laners get less gold from the jungle in patch 4.21 so the Razorbeaks could use a lovetap nerf Primarily the small ones. I haven't checked in game yet but someone told me they out damage the large one when combined which really sucks for single target champs
Perhaps bring the Raptors down to 15 AD and the Crimson Raptor up to 70? That way the total AD is still 115 from the camp but its almost entirely focused on the big one.
Jamnon1 votesI guess this depends on who you use to jungle with.
Kingsgrave2 votesI guess this depends on who you use to jungle with.
I lose 3 far more important buffs if they take red side compared to gromp and blue.
Afk Teemo Ward1 votesbecause I honestly think its a lot better to have vision of your Red side from being invaded than your blue side most of the time.
You also have Mid taking Wolves a lot less than Chickens, which benefits the jungler in solo queue.
I personally think they should do this, but more from a logical standpoint than the other. Why can chickens see wards, but wolves can't smell them? Also, that would put the wraith in a zone where it actually would matter more, since the red buff side jungle is more open for travel by the enemy champs.