"Hey let's interact with the enemy to try to have fun in this game!"
: hold my beer
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anti-interaction champion still allowed to be in the game after so many years
: hold my beer
https://i.imgflip.com/17koi7.jpg
anti-interaction champion still allowed to be in the game after so many years
"I can't deal with a melee ranged Warden that has no engage tools and a single short ranged skill shot"
i forgot melee champs can get cs with range .
wait a second they actually have to get in melee range too?
doesnt that mean that tahm can hit them?
wait but doesnt that make him an annoying champ with no counterplay as an aa based champ?
wait a second i think thats too much thinking for someone like you!
full tank/hp tahm is busted and always has been vs melees.
[{quoted}](name=Milton Fletcher,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=unymd39g,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2018-02-23T23:16:25.076+0000)
i forgot melee champs can get cs with range .
wait a second they actually have to get in melee range too?
doesnt that mean that tahm can hit them?
wait but doesnt that make him an annoying champ with no counterplay as an aa based champ?
wait a second i think thats too much thinking for someone like you!
full tank/hp tahm is busted and always has been vs melees.
most champions have some form of ranged CSing ability even melee ones. If tahm cannot hit you with his Q then he is not doing anything to do unless you decide that standing still is a good choice in which case... that's on you not him. "No counterplay" sorry but you have plenty of counterplay, you might not be able to 1v1 a champion but that is not the only form of counterplay existing in the game. Couterplay means nothing anymore since everyone just believes that counterplay is the exact same thing for every single champion and matchup in the game and its not. Learn what counterplay actually is. You can cry all you want about Tahm it won't get nerfed because he is not strong enough no matter how much you want to believe otherwise
true lol. all the high elo players are just lying and you guys in gold are the true brains of the playerbase.
also im talking about tahm top as a melee.
try playing trynd/jax/riven/fiora or ANY aa based melee fighter against this guy and tell me how it goes.
wait you're a support only player so i guess u still know more than me about laning against him top :)
[{quoted}](name=Milton Fletcher,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=unymd39g,comment-id=0002000000000000,timestamp=2018-02-23T23:58:38.876+0000)
true lol. all the high elo players are just lying and you guys in gold are the true brains of the playerbase.
also im talking about tahm top as a melee.
try playing trynd/jax/riven/fiora or ANY aa based melee fighter against this guy and tell me how it goes.
wait you're a support only player so i guess u still know more than me about laning against him top :)
i can... i build some lifesteal and he is unable to do anythiung to me since he has now ZERO kill threat on his own... oh wow that was easy
building sustain against tahm makes it so u will be squishier aka meaning the second he gets 1 tank item you're a free kill for him and his jungler.
this goes for melee fighters only.
[{quoted}](name=Milton Fletcher,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=unymd39g,comment-id=000200000000000000000000,timestamp=2018-02-24T00:53:19.635+0000)
building sustain against tahm makes it so u will be squishier aka meaning the second he gets 1 tank item you're a free kill for him and his jungler.
this goes for melee fighters only.
so... what you are telling me is that he needs help for him to have kill threat on you... and i specifically said "on his own"... i mean if you want to bring a 2v1 scenario then sure... he has great ganking assistance but by himself he is not a threat at all unless you decide that not moving at all is a good idea for whatever reason.
That goes for every single champion not melee fighters but you can keep trying to make melee fighters be so bad and worthless all you want. Doesn't change anything about Tahm not killing you on it's own unless massively ahead which at that point the same can be said about every single champion in the game
After he gets one item he can zone u pretty hard and if u try to shove him off u autolose trades as he completely dumpsters u all by building hp and armor .
Ranged champs actually get to poke him and can safely farm.
There is a reason why top is being bitched about all the time and tanks are always complained about but living under a rock and refusing to admit that MAYBE something could be wrong
Tahm aa can hit u over minions meaning he can be a bit annoying but no man ur role is balanced and everyone that can be played support are the most balanced of them all
[{quoted}](name=Milton Fletcher,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=unymd39g,comment-id=00020000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2018-02-24T01:43:43.652+0000)
After he gets one item he can zone u pretty hard and if u try to shove him off u autolose trades as he completely dumpsters u all by building hp and armor .
Ranged champs actually get to poke him and can safely farm.
There is a reason why top is being bitched about all the time and tanks are always complained about but living under a rock and refusing to admit that MAYBE something could be wrong
Tahm aa can hit u over minions meaning he can be a bit annoying but no man ur role is balanced and everyone that can be played support are the most balanced of them all
ok, if you say so. If tahm is getting nerfed is not because the poor top laners are losing to him. It's will be because of how much he does as a support. Build sustain and he does NOTHING to you. Learn to ward and predict what the enemy jungler will do and you will not die to a jungle gank unless you get hit by his Q in which case it's 100% your fault. I don't care about tanks top. besides Sion they are not good, people can bitch all they want i don't see any data at all that actually goes with their complains. Maybe you are the one living under a rock that refuses to build properly but then again people think hashinshin is all great and so smart when he wants to build the exact same way and play the exact same style regardless of who is is against and that he always wants everything that beats him nerfed and his champions buffed regardless of whether they need nerfs or buffs.
You can cry all you want about Kench all you want, riot is not going to care about something that is barely picked at all in the top lane and even with how strong he is supposed to be there he doesn't even reach 50% winrate in there... so ok i don't really care if Tahm beats you in top lane
All I’m gonna say is he’s going to be nerfed again in a month or so and I guarantee you’re going to forget about this conversation and pretend you didn’t even find him to be stupid
[{quoted}](name=Milton Fletcher,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=unymd39g,comment-id=0002000000000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2018-02-24T02:01:42.900+0000)
All I’m gonna say is he’s going to be nerfed again in a month or so and I guarantee you’re going to forget about this conversation and pretend you didn’t even find him to be stupid
if he gets nerfed because of top lane then sure but that is something that is insanely unlikely when he is barely played and in every single site i have checked he doesn't reach 50% winrate in top lane and in most he has anywhere from 42% to 47% but sure, he will get nerfed because of top lane and not because of his support plays
No he’s getting nerfed in general because he has a very toxic kit .
The -1 downvote you do doesn’t make it ANY less true.
[{quoted}](name=Milton Fletcher,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=unymd39g,comment-id=000200000000000000000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2018-02-24T02:23:49.442+0000)
No he’s getting nerfed in general because he has a very toxic kit .
The -1 downvote you do doesn’t make it ANY less true.
i am not downvoting anyone in this thread but sure you can believe it was me. Like if he is going to get nerfed is because of his support play and not because the poor top laners cannot handle a top lane champion that has terrible winrate despite having a very little pickrate but you can believe whatever you want to believe
"I can't deal with a melee ranged Warden that has no engage tools and a single short ranged skill shot"
You're missing the point entirely. Tahm Kench isn't the problem. The safety he gives to his ADC partner is disgusting, and discourages pretty much any form of interaction wit hthat ADC. Throw CC at them? Nah, Tahm Kench. Throw all of your damage at them? Nah, Tahm will just eat them before the damage hits and spit them back out while your cooldowns are used up. Attack Tahm Kench so the adc will be less safe? Nah, Tahm will just shrug off the damage with the insane bulk his E gives him.
I'm so confused. Tahm is the "anti interaction" champ? What do you mean anti interaction? I'm a little slow so you'll have to walk me through it.
Just bait his W, same you would do with any other champ. It has a high cd and can either be used offensively or defensively, not both at all. Force him to use it, whatever the reason is