Honestly, I like the juggernaut updates

BeatinWarDrumz·Sep 28, 2015·16 votes·838 views

Not balance wise, but I really, really like the fact that Riot decided to shake things up. Sure, skarner and morde were heavily unbalanced and Garen still kinda is, but the meta was stale for a long, long time, and now we are seeing some new picks. Plus, in soloq we just ban them - I know that kinda suck for their mains and it's not ideal, but you still do sometimes get to play them and after they get fixed they'll be in a whole new states where their mains can play them regularly without being called a troll.

17 Comments

Big LincolnSep 28, 20157 votes

how is garen unbalanced?

like, people have done the math, he is objectively lower-damage early-mid unless you're the villain.

people just ban them because they don't have anything else to ban right now, especially with devourer being disabled

HayRossSep 28, 20151 votes

The Garen rework was just "We're making him shittier overall, but if you just got a kill, he will kill you

MatezoideSep 28, 20155 votes

This.

Garen is fine, there are plenty of champions that should take priority over him when it comes to banning.

ViashinoWizardSep 28, 20153 votes

I don't know if he's broken, but he is very strong right now.

Red RyuSep 28, 20151 votes

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how is garen unbalanced?

like, people have done the math, he is objectively lower-damage early-mid unless you're the villain.

people just ban them because they don't have anything else to ban right now, especially with devourer being disabled

Is this with more spin ticks? Because from what I recall, with a solo target and more spin ticks he does more if all of the spins hit, outside of very early game.

Or maybe I forgot this, I think a rioter corrected people on this on the PBE.

ScriptBrandSep 28, 20154 votes

until darius shakes his noxxian guillotine up your butt then youll be singing a different tune

BeatinWarDrumzSep 28, 20157 votes

Dude... I've been playing constantly since the update (at least 100 games), and I have dealt with many a darius. Is he op? Yes. Is he game breaking? no

Malix FarwinSep 28, 20151 votes

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Dude... I've been playing constantly since the update (at least 100 games), and I have dealt with many a darius. Is he op? Yes. Is he game breaking? no

Is he OP? Yes. Is he game breaking? Yes.

FHMarshySep 28, 20151 votes

He is strong. He CAN be game breaking, but he CAN be stopped, too.

5 Stacks GGSep 28, 20151 votes

is he op? no. is he game breaking? nop.

FacerollKatarinaSep 28, 20153 votes

I like the idea of the changes but they executed all of them horribly.

Slamurai JackSep 28, 20153 votes

The juggernaughts will either be good and feel unfun to play against or terrible and feel fair to play against. By their very nature, juggernaughts are going to feel extremely oppressive when used in optimal conditions because the difficulty of those champions is getting into those conditions in the first place. It's like how assassins feel OP in 1v1 scenarios; of course they do, that's the whole reason you play assassins.

SaiiyuuSep 28, 20152 votes

when something is so strong you need 4-5 people to focus them then something is wrong. this is a team game not a dungeon crawler where u fight one boss. if one person is so strong even if they have the same gold as everyone else then something is insanely wrong with their balance. im sorry but the juggernots were the stupidest thing riot has done in a very long time