Darius pathetic ULT damage in the PBE

Lord Kuma·Nov 2, 2017·5 votes·1,244 views

It does 253 damage at level 6 on whatever Rune tree you choose, which means you can't fight any good bruiser at that level because you do so little damage it won't matter. Where is the freaking compensations for his bonus damage scaling abilities?(Passive and Ult) With press the attack rune you do 269 damage compared to live 308 damage with fervor and normal AS rune page..

its like 39 damage loss, THAT'S HUGE!!!!!

I can't understand how Riot compensate champions like Fiora, Riven, Pantheon and Jayce while leaving champions like Darius and ALL Mage class behind.. Jesus christ the favoritism...

13 Comments

RalanrNov 2, 20172 votes

Is this without his stacks?

Lord KumaNov 2, 20171 votes

With the 5 stacks... which is sad how unfair Riot leaving Darius uncompensated..

Rebel FoxNov 2, 20172 votes

The Highest level 6 health of any champion is Alistar, with just over 1100. This mean Darius ult will do 1/4 of a health bar to any other level 6 champion all else unconsidered. Considering that Darius is a high auto attack based champion, take a look at the damage he can do at level 6 items excluded. His Passive alone, at 1 stack, deals roughly 45 damage (considering a 100 AD level 6 Darius), so at 5 stacks, this becomes 225 damage. His Q does 100 flat, plus an additional 120% of his Ad, so in this case, 220 damage. His W will do 40% addtional AD, so that is a 140 damage Auto which can cancel another auto His E has armor pen, so in this case, lets assume a 60 armor opponent, which would get lowered to say 54 armor, which is 35% reduction. 4 Autos, 1 W, 1 Q, 1 ult. Consider 400 + 140+220+ 225 + 253 true damage ult. This equates to 1218 damage, which reduced becomes roughly 880 damage. This is a single combo mind you

Lord KumaNov 2, 20171 votes

At level 6 Darius has 84 base damage

At level 6 Darius does 15 damage on 1 stack per tick, with 5 stacks he does 26 damage per tick thats like 130 damage before armor

At level 6 Darius does 201 damage on his Q

At level 6 Darius does 117 damage on his W

At level 6 Darius have 5% armor pen

At level 6 Darius does 100 damage true damage, with 5 stack he does 253 true damage on his ULT

all this could work on an AFK target who does not fight back

Im not sure why are you randomly higher up his damage across the board without actually testing him in PBE

Rebel FoxNov 4, 20171 votes

[{quoted}](name=Lord Kuma,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ui8N0Jsr,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2017-11-02T18:47:34.259+0000)

At level 6 Darius has 84 base damage

At level 6 Darius does 15 damage on 1 stack per tick, with 5 stacks he does 26 damage per tick thats like 130 damage before armor

At level 6 Darius does 201 damage on his Q

At level 6 Darius does 117 damage on his W

At level 6 Darius have 5% armor pen

At level 6 Darius does 100 damage true damage, with 5 stack he does 253 true damage on his ULT

all this could work on an AFK target who does not fight back

Im not sure why are you randomly higher up his damage across the board without actually testing him in PBE

84 Base, Add A dorans blade, a phage, 2 long swords, any kind of additional AD, not even counting if you were to have Grasp on the PBE, you would be doing well over 100 Damage on Auto attacks.

15 Base +30% of your AD

100 Base + 120% of your AD, which again, at this point is most likely higher than 100.

Even at 87 Base damage only, Darius W does 121 Damage, not including the additional AD which will be in his build.

His ultimate does not do True damage until 5 stacks, I grant you, but at 5 stacks, it gives 20% additional damage per stack, meaning it does, at minimum, 100 + 75% Bonus AD, multiplied by 2 because of 5 stacks. Assuming 13 bonus AD ONLY, that would still be 226 True damage.

This does not include potential Rune Bonus', such as- Press the Attack, Coup de Grace, Last Stand, Electrocute, Predator, Cheap Shot, Scorch, or Grasp of the Undying.

If your issue is with his damage, try taking a different Keystone, Press the attack seems rather good, as you should already stack his passive.

If your issue is with his playstyle, I recommend another champion.

Lord KumaNov 6, 20171 votes

do you even play this champion or are you just being retarded?

also they changed press the attack its not like fervor anymore, also maybe you shouldn't be commenting here if you dont even play top lane and acting like a true dumbass gold 5 low elo player

Rebel FoxNov 7, 20171 votes

[{quoted}](name=Lord Kuma,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ui8N0Jsr,comment-id=0001000000000000,timestamp=2017-11-06T22:35:30.135+0000)

do you even play this champion or are you just being retarded?

also they changed press the attack its not like fervor anymore, also maybe you shouldn't be commenting here if you dont even play top lane and acting like a true dumbass gold 5 low elo player

Are you saying that because you disagree with my numbers? Or are you saying that because I disagree with my ability to interpret what the numbers mean?

Of course it isn't like Fervor, but if you stack 5 stacks (Q, W, Autos) you should receive more damage on your ultimate from having Auto Attacked at minimum 3 times.

I don't know why being gold 3 makes my ability to reason about how much damage a champion can do any less valid than yours.

SpideraxeNov 2, 20172 votes

I think this is a pretty big oversight by Riot, they're mainly compensating spells with bonus AD ratios and Riot forgot Darius' passive and ult scale off of it

JmmanNov 2, 20172 votes

Know the filling bro.

Fiddle hasn't gotten ONE buff.

listed as support 2nd most played (after jungle) didn't get any of the AC buffs. I don't event think he got the MR buff everyone got. (maybe they are waiting till the patch to give those)

at mid I had to take ad red and the mastery for last hitting. None of the new things really scream fiddle. But they all scream AD.

Some champs got buffed for all the Runes and masteries they took while other are told to wait and see. This I really don't understand. its like my first two game in my Gold 1 promos to plat 5.... lvl 28 and just ding lvl 30 on my team. other game had two fresh 30s. can't really do to much when they are learn and don't know champs.

AhrisNov 2, 20171 votes

Many champs are also getting nerfed, Ahri lost her w interqction with thunderlords and her q + ludens + tld as well.

These runes imo is pretty garbage for many champs.

Lord KumaNov 2, 20171 votes

The Runes are fine but how Riot compensate champions are out of this world unfair

Tenth LeperNov 6, 20171 votes

Well there are a ton more sustain options now if you want to make yourself a bit more resilient. And there are lots of AD boosting non keystone runes in domination and sorcery if you want to splash one of those instead of resolve. I don't think it is end of the world bad.

Also, there will be funny edge cases of people forgetting not to take magical footwear against you and you can chase them to death over and over [sg-poppy]

4PMButtChugDec 11, 20171 votes

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It does 253 damage at level 6 on whatever Rune tree you choose, which means you can't fight any good bruiser at that level because you do so little damage it won't matter. Where is the freaking compensations for his bonus damage scaling abilities?(Passive and Ult) With press the attack rune you do 269 damage compared to live 308 damage with fervor and normal AS rune page..

its like 39 damage loss, THAT'S HUGE!!!!!

I can't understand how Riot compensate champions like Fiora, Riven, Pantheon and Jayce while leaving champions like Darius and ALL Mage class behind.. Jesus christ the favoritism...

False He does huge amounts of damage I'm a darius MAIN and I'm dishing out tons of damage per game Just gotta know how to build right If they are squishy Trinity Force Hydra/Deaths Dance ---> Full Tank If they are tanky Black Cleaver ---> Full Tank Like, he's not bad at all, just takes some practice doing his combos, easy to learn hard to master as what Dyrus and many other players have said about Darius