So Ahri has NEVER been bad...

Onotori·Apr 22, 2018·2 votes·1,633 views

And yet we buffed her? Hm. Has nothing to do with the fact she's a money maker though, right?

14 Comments

VoraciousXApr 22, 20186 votes

She wasn't nerfed or buffed. She was repurposed. I mean she was buffed, but she lost her safety, meaning she's now more risk/reward than she was previously. Ahri before these changes wasn't doing enough when she was ahead, and when she was behind she wasn't paying as much of a price. Now she pays more of a price when she's behind, and when she's ahead she is able to actually do things. However I don't think the passive is that good, but everyone said they hated not having the move speed buff on Ahri, so they gave her situational movement speed that only works when she's being aggressive pretty much. This will be good for people facing Ahri, and it'll also be good for people playing AS Ahri.

RexxieeApr 22, 20183 votes

She was nerfed, not buffed...

Her damage is more or less the same and she basically lost her movespeed on her Q (new passive gives so little it might aswell not exist)

OnotoriApr 22, 20182 votes

She does overall more damage now and kept her MS steroid. Don't see how that's a nerf.

RexxieeApr 22, 20184 votes

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She does overall more damage now and kept her MS steroid. Don't see how that's a nerf.

Her passive is complete garbo compared to the old MS on Q.

She does LESS damage if she doesnt hit E, and with a full combo STARTING WITH E (way more rare than you'd think) she does more damage, she has even less base damages than before so if shes behind she does even less damage while not having an easy MS steroid anymore.

At best the power change was neutral, only a bit positive if you hit every spell on the perfect order, otherwise its a nerf.

RanmaruApr 22, 20182 votes

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Her passive is complete garbo compared to the old MS on Q.

She does LESS damage if she doesnt hit E, and with a full combo STARTING WITH E (way more rare than you'd think) she does more damage, she has even less base damages than before so if shes behind she does even less damage while not having an easy MS steroid anymore.

At best the power change was neutral, only a bit posivite if you hit every spell on the perfect order, otherwise its a nerf.

Why because ahri cant land an simple ability?

Rins Thigh SocksApr 22, 20183 votes

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Her passive is complete garbo compared to the old MS on Q.

She does LESS damage if she doesnt hit E, and with a full combo STARTING WITH E (way more rare than you'd think) she does more damage, she has even less base damages than before so if shes behind she does even less damage while not having an easy MS steroid anymore.

At best the power change was neutral, only a bit positive if you hit every spell on the perfect order, otherwise its a nerf.

If she has 300 AP at level 16 she does more damage if she misses E in both scenarios... That doesn't even include how easily you land all 3 foxfires now.

The only time it does less is if you use everything and then cast E.

Also, more damage is good. It makes it easier to snowball and one-shot people. I can now run Relentless Hunter instead of Ravenous because I used to need that sustain or I'd lose duels to people who were too tanky to kill.

The damage also makes you more relevant even when behind.

wildfox99Apr 22, 20181 votes

If she has 300 AP at level 16 she does more damage if she misses E in both scenarios

like 20 more damage?

if you want to consider everything,she'll never use all her 3 dashes on her target after her laning phase,she always need to "waste" at least one of them for engaging,disengaging or repositioining,so her scalings are pretty much the same

The only time it does less is if you use everything and then cast E.

she got this mini rework exactly why her damage was too low,so the argument "she deals about the same damage as before so she's fine" is not valid in my opinion,dealing the same damage as before means dealing no damage

because I used to need that sustain or I'd lose duels to people who were too tanky to kill.

well,she's not supposed to kill this kind of targets,but have you ever tried item 3100 on her?

good burst vs squishyes,nice dps vs tanks

Rins Thigh SocksApr 22, 20181 votes

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like 20 more damage?

if you want to consider everything,she'll never use all her 3 dashes on her target after her laning phase,she always need to "waste" at least one of them for engaging,disengaging or repositioining,so her scalings are pretty much the same

she got this mini rework exactly why her damage was too low,so the argument "she deals about the same damage as before so she's fine" is not valid in my opinion,dealing the same damage as before means dealing no damage

well,she's not supposed to kill this kind of targets,but have you ever tried on her?

good burst vs squishyes,nice dps vs tanks

When I say I lose duels to people too tanky to kill, I don't mean Maokai and Sej. I mean an ADC who has their support popping Locket, Redemption, and healing for them.
She deals more damage regardless now since it's easy to amass 300 AP at level 16. This is assuming you miss E and you still get slightly more damage.
Stop buying Lich Bane you trolls.

Twilit AngelApr 22, 20181 votes

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Stop buying Lich Bane you trolls.

You're joking right? Ever try the item 3030 + item 3100 combo? A proper Ahri player weaves aa's into their combos, so it does work. Learned about the item combo watching Faker play her.

HP CrookshanksApr 22, 20181 votes

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She does overall more damage now and kept her MS steroid. Don't see how that's a nerf.

Her old Q ms boost was much better than her current useless ms passive and she isn't buffed. She does more damage with her charm amp but she is much less safe because of the loss of her ms boost(again, her passive is useless). That's why her win rate went down.