Supersafe champs that deal retarded damage

PiVoRx··3 votes·1,116 views

Why LeBroken, Ahri, Nida, Zed and Lee Skill are allowed to global someone while being untouchable?

I really would like to hear from Riot what kind of weakness those champions has cause i dont see any.

This game turns into "Play meta or go fuck yourself".

11 Comments

MrPerson105 votes

LeBlanc - squishy as fuck, easy to shut down, like all assassins is very predictable.

Ahri - her mobility is what makes her annoying, yet she's quite squishy and isn't immune to targetted burst like Katarina, is 100% skillshot - I hope you can avoid them at this point.

Nidalee - she's strong right now, yes. She has an incoming nerf, though maybe not exactly the AP scaling nerf she needs. Quit complaining about her.

Zed - requires great mechanics and knee-jerk reaction times along with knowing how to blow a combo to 100-0 someone safely in the mid-game and late-game, particularly when there are so many in-game mechanics to work against you. Kayle Lissandra item 3157 item 3139

Lee Sin - why do people still complain about Lee? He's hands down the hardest champion to master. Yes, he has a lot in his kit. Yes, he's overloaded. That's exactly why he's so hard to master. You want to optimize mobility? Great, buy a sightstone. No sightstone, no supermobility. That limits you to 4 options for itemization. Why in the name of God are people so butthurt about high skillcap champions shitting on them when those champions take so much more time and practice to learn to that skill level than, say, Annie Fizz Lissandra who are all still more than useful. You should appreciate the fact that someone put in the time and effort required to learn those high skillcap champions.

SmknWdl1 votes

THANK YOU. FINALLY SOMEONE ELSE GETS IT!

MrPerson101 votes

I just wish people would stop needless QQ before they've attempted to learn a champion like LeeSin platinum + elo.

He's not easy at all, far from the faceroll people think he is. It's incredibly difficult to juggle 6 spells working out to 240total energy, making sure to fit AAs in with little spell overlapping to get the most usage out of your passive, making sure you have enough energy.

it's not uncommon for an average mid-elo Lee Sin player to misjudge his energy pool, not remembering the second cast also costs energy. Hell, I've even seen challenger players do this on more than one occasion. It's less often in high elo, but it does happen

SmknWdl1 votes

ikr. Sometimes I'm playing yasuo (my main) and people start bitching saying he's op. I just want to show them some of my early games as yasuo, and show them how many turret shots i got because of a misjudged e. I also remember not getting the timing of everything down for a while... it takes practice.

MrPerson101 votes

Precisely, and Yasuo's one of the easier mobile assassin kits to adjust to.

Adjusting to the mechanics required for Zed takes forever.

SmknWdl1 votes

OMG YES! I used to be good with zed. Pretty good. And then i stopped playing him for a while, and now I've tried to go back to playing and it's extremely difficult. People only hate on mobility champions because of the way that they can just outmaneuver you. Granted if the team counter built cc, it wouldn't be as much of an issue. I always go leona support or malphite jungle if i see a zed or another high mobility guy like that. Vi is another great counter pick for mobility. It just takes smart play. Although i can agree that zed might do well with a slight nerf. I would say decrease his damage a little, but change his ultimate so it lands on top of the champion targeted. That way, there is less escape potential (ult under tower, pop shadow after the kill and escape), but still good damage.

MrPerson101 votes

Personally I think his kit is wonderful. I hate playing against a Zed as Kat, and I'm not a great Zed, but I love his kit. He could use a minor numbers nerf, but his kit is already incredibly difficult to use to its maximum potential and has a ton of room for counterplay both through itemization and counterpicks like Kayle (as mentioned above).

I'm not sure if you were around in Season 3, but I'm so thankful for that massive X on my team when he ults. I literally could not play Kayle into Zed in Season 3, the reaction time had to be 100% perfect on the counter-ult so he couldn't totally unload in a team fight. the X really helps a lot more than people think. That minor change made a massive difference.

PrinceOfStorms2 votes

For Nidalee, you have to realize that a nerf to her AP scalings would destroy her has a champion. If you're getting wrecked by a nidalee, you have to step back for a moment and think, "what am I doing wrong?" and then you realize, that in fact, the problem is that you're getting hit by spears.

Don't get hit by spears, and you're fine. If you can't dodge the spears, don't stand at max range so the spears don't chunk you so hard, or stand behind minions to bodyblock for you.

Really it's a L2P issue.

MrPerson101 votes

While this is true, you cannot dodge every spear. Yes, you should dodge a mass majority - but eventually once in a while they're going to hit, and it's going to hurt. Particularly if its a blind spear over a wall when you're doing dragon and hits your AD carry for 3/4 of their health, followed by a pounce, they're deleted with a chance of a dragon smite steal. Granted, if you warded properly that should never happen, but not everyone knows how to do that.

soulchaos1 votes

well if you think about it every one has a counter play. Because every one deals ether AP or AD if you are getting eaten build to counter them.
counters: Le blanc: ether get item 3102, try too get her to blow her ability's with out hitting you or play a champ with alot of AOE Ahri: i dont even think she OP any more get a mid with a stun (like annie,anivia,veigar,) and dont get taunted Nid: learn how to dodge = almost useless or get item 3102 or item 3157 Zed: he is a bit of a problem and the most OP on your list he involves more on a good counter champion then items. I picked up cass to counter him but idealy if your trapped into fighting him get armor early (item 3191 )

I am surprised you did not write Yasuo. In my opinion he can safely attack better then almost any cham in the game. I still counter him with cass (its the AOE)

BlueFireBlaster1 votes

Come on! Why is everyone complaing about champs who have super damage or something. It is something natural. Everybody have their weaknesses. And if YOU can find any, play with them(leblank nida lee..) what people should complain is the super buffed new champs. But there is a solution to this too. Go draft and BAN THEM.it is so simple.thatsvwhy bans are for.

More from Gameplay

More by PiVoRx