Climbing in ranked...never ceases to amaze

DarkinPrime·May 5, 2019·3 votes·1,580 views

The amount of stupidity....mind boggling.

I have a 5/0/2 lucian who wanted to keep farming despite being ahead in kills, items and up 50 farm over the vayne.

There is always some new brand of total idiocy from players to fuck a match up. If this clown just stayed with the team we win.

All players should be required to take a basic course in logic regarding the game and pass a fucking proctored exam. I am sick of losing for stupid reasons. And before that what was it? OH yes, Malzhahar and fiddle support--fucking geniuses pick champions that cant tank, shield or heal anyone. Awful support choices.

It just never ends. It makes rank incredibly frustrating, and then Riot wonders why the community is so toxic.

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Red Mage FTSMay 5, 20192 votes

I would agree to most of your comments except...

"OH yes, Malzhahar and fiddle support--fucking geniuses pick champions that cant tank, shield or heal anyone. Awful support choices."

Malz and fiddle are both decent supports depending on the matchup. Sona into a fiddle should have an anurisem, and I know playing morgana into malz makes me spaz. Don't champ shame a role you don't understand my man, aside from that, yeah.

DarkinPrimeMay 6, 20191 votes

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I would agree to most of your comments except...

"OH yes, Malzhahar and fiddle support--fucking geniuses pick champions that cant tank, shield or heal anyone. Awful support choices."

Malz and fiddle are both decent supports depending on the matchup. Sona into a fiddle should have an anurisem, and I know playing morgana into malz makes me spaz. Don't champ shame a role you don't understand my man, aside from that, yeah.

I dont give a flying fuck if they have the potentional to be good supports or are good supports in certain elos, most of the time the exectuion is poor. For years, support champions like the ones I listed almost always blow and cost us the match. Almost without fail. I am talking of THOUSANDS of ranked matches over the years.

You dont seem to understand the difference between what can happen and what almost always does happen--they don't play those champs well enough in a support role to compensate for everything the team is going to be lacking, namely shields, tanking and heals

Red Mage FTSMay 6, 20191 votes

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I dont give a flying fuck if they have the potentional to be good supports or are good supports in certain elos, most of the time the exectuion is poor. For years, support champions like the ones I listed almost always blow and cost us the match. Almost without fail. I am talking of THOUSANDS of ranked matches over the years.

You dont seem to understand the difference between what can happen and what almost always does happen--they don't play those champs well enough in a support role to compensate for everything the team is going to be lacking, namely shields, tanking and heals

So I just checked and your about the same ELO as my ranked account.

I want to say the issue is not in the champiopns but rather in the volume of autofilled support players.

I mean if the issue is player skills, you should be able to use op.gg and see if the games a wash. Its not the role, its not the champ, its the player.

DarkinPrimeMay 6, 20191 votes

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So I just checked and your about the same ELO as my ranked account.

I want to say the issue is not in the champiopns but rather in the volume of autofilled support players.

I mean if the issue is player skills, you should be able to use op.gg and see if the games a wash. Its not the role, its not the champ, its the player.

Uhh, yes you are agreeing with me.

dying game btwMay 5, 20192 votes

You yourself don't even know how support role works and you critisize others. You talk about logic thinking, but you also lack in that matter. First make sure you are smarter than others before complaining how stupid are people you have to play with. I wouldn't be surprised if that lucian was just trying to catch some free farm when nothing was going on and you and others decided to make some stupid play in that particular moment, and later blamed lucian for a loss.

DarkinPrimeMay 6, 20191 votes

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You yourself don't even know how support role works and you critisize others. You talk about logic thinking, but you also lack in that matter. First make sure you are smarter than others before complaining how stupid are people you have to play with. I wouldn't be surprised if that lucian was just trying to catch some free farm when nothing was going on and you and others decided to make some stupid play in that particular moment, and later blamed lucian for a loss.

Okay great. You literally said nothing. Nice response. Try again and actually say something.

dying game btwMay 6, 20191 votes

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Okay great. You literally said nothing. Nice response. Try again and actually say something.

Other people explained you everything, I just summed you up. You act like a kid - "I saw bad fiddle couple of times, he is troll support!!!". But fine, I doubt you will understand it, but ill say more. Fiddle in support role has 51% winrate https://na.op.gg/champion/fiddlesticks/statistics/support, such bad supp..

If you were smart you would notice that name of the role "support" is misleading in this game. Experience shows that champions that are not designed for supporting anyone in classical meaning (shielding, healing, buffing etc) sometimes work very good with adc in botlane, for example annie, brand, zyra and so on. To be a support you just have to be able to help adc in miningfull way to get kills and be able to help him to survive in fights. Fiddle has very long hard cc in Q, it can be used both as a tool to protect and to guarantee a kill. His E is similiar to sorakas E, another cc ability that gives adc advantage. Also it provides poke, which can lower enemies hp and thus give another advantage for your adc. His ult can be used as zoning tool. Malzahar has silence in Q and really long stun in ult. Also malza builds rylai which provides very long slow combined with e.

Basicly any champ can be used in "support" role at certain conditions. In lcs miss fortune was used as supp, becasue she counters zyra. In general miss fortune is awfull supp, but in that particular case she worked. If there wouldn't be better options also jarvan and pantheon would be used as supps. Sion already is used as support for a long time. Shaco the same, jungler that found place in support position.

DarkinPrimeMay 6, 20191 votes

"I saw bad fiddle couple of times, he is troll support!!!"

First of all, it offends me that I have to explain to you that I didnt draw those conclusions soley based on 2 matches. I draw it from 10k plus ranked matches over 5 years, and even if those champions CAN be good in the right hands, at the right elo, the reality is, in silver, gold, low platinum, I see them almost always failing hard and contributing signficantly to a loss

Nothing you say at this point matters. I have seen it enough time in ranked to know its usually going to cost the team. Soraka has silence too, and guess what, she can heal people. Nothing you say about the pros of those supports is relavant. At lower elos, it hurts to be lacking a champion that can throw shields, heal or tank for the carry.