New Aatrox is a slap in the fact to all players

DarkinPrime··21 votes·8,353 views

Because, eventually someone at Riot will decide the champion you love has to go and delete him out of existence. You may not care now, but you will when all the time spent on a champion was wasted.

Don't play Aatrox. Send Riot a message.

39 Comments

Ok sure but why18 votes

a slap in the fact

ZackTheWaffleMan5 votes

#FACT

Ok sure but why1 votes

yes

Done2512 votes

Old Aatrox was binary feast or famine toxic trash.

MOuHahaHAhahaaaa2 votes

i don't think you encountered a real aatrox main... Full build he was impossible to 1v1 in late...

DarkinPrime1 votes

So why 1v1 him. CC him and burst him down. WTF would anyone try to 1v1 him late game.?

Phieldworker2 votes

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i don't think you encountered a real aatrox main... Full build he was impossible to 1v1 in late...

They said feast or famish. Even a main can struggle in a match on their best champ.

Done256 votes

{quoted} Full build he was impossible to 1v1 in late...

That would be the point of what I said, yes.

We Are Venom4 votes

This retort speaks to me on a spiritual level.

Xurreal3 votes

That's what he's saying. Aatrox would not fight unless he cannot be killed. In games he would lose, it was one-sided unless his team got ahead and threw hard. But he hard carried so well with a full build, there was no one who could stop him with a full build.

He was too reliable for getting wins on by just basic attacking all of the time.

DarkinPrime2 votes

So many champions are binary and feast or famine.

gabetheguy6 votes

and they're working on that.

TheDevice6 votes

You're angry you lost your freelo, we get it.

Aatrox was at the highest winrate (top) ever since they buffed his kit before rework.

That's why they reworked him in the first place. His kit was too binary. Either he was too strong, or too weak. Thats what an auto attack drain tank looks like.

Xurreal2 votes

Played him Jungle a long time ago. Just stood there and switched targets to whoever was squishiest.

You didn't have to do much with him, just land the Q, R and toggle your blade when you started taking chunks.

It bothers me that there's so many Aatrox players that have multiple banned accounts in high elo <.<

CytheGuy2 votes

The problem wasn't him, it was item 3124 because this item is in a million pieces right now; its just so damn broken. He was fine.

DarkinPrime1 votes

Freelo?

  1. most players dont trust aatrox, and dont know enough about him to play off your plays 2)He is easy to build against 3)more of number 1. They dont realize how much you can sustain, or that you come back to life. Or they don't let you split push despite being a great champion to do so with .

It wasnt freelo. If I wanted freelo I would have spent time on champions that can carry more consistently. You are just talking shit

VICHEL CHAOS6 votes

First they came for Poppy, and I did not speak out because I was not a Poppy main.

Then they came for Sion, and I did not speak out because I was not a Sion main.

Then they came for Galio, and I did not speak out because I was not a Galio main.

Theb they came for Swain, and I did not speak out because I was not a Swain main.

When they came for Aatrox there was no one left who would care to speak out for him.

Ariel the Cruel3 votes

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Akali is SO HOT1 votes

To be fair, there was actually nothing at all they could salvage from Sion's kit aside from a rework on his W. His old kit was actually just 4 completely random abilities + a luck based passive all slapped onto one champion for memes.

BeatzBoyFTW5 votes

"the champion you love"

You mean the champion that no one played for the past 3 years?

ÐrKaiser1 votes

I mained him for 3 season and you know almost every tank can beat him down on 1v1 guess why ? there's an Item called thornmail ! no life steal = death cc = death. Most player were trash on him bc they didn't put time into him like I did ! I had 70% win rate with the old on now with the new Aatrox I got a 60% win rate that's it. Im pretty sure that the old aatrox beat the new one. With guinsoo + titanic he was god tier. This champion should never been reworked ! Please riot revert him like you did to leblanc and rengar. Give him 1 more chance. 3 season wasted for a bad rework...

BeatzBoyFTW1 votes

The old champion itself was already wasted, and it's more over that old Aatrox sucks cz he's kitable af & the only thing he can do in teamfights is just AA-ing to death. Even if Riot tune the numbers around him, he would either become seriously useless or just a heavy stat check champion that becomes too toxic to fight against.

xX StromLord Xx1 votes

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The old champion itself was already wasted, and it's more over that old Aatrox sucks cz he's kitable af & the only thing he can do in teamfights is just AA-ing to death. Even if Riot tune the numbers around him, he would either become seriously useless or just a heavy stat check champion that becomes too toxic to fight against.

hmm NO , the new aatrox is kitable , the old one with good usage of E and Q cannot be really kited and still deal massive damage with R in teamfights still there is counterplay that is CC chain , almost guaranted kill , but noo the new aatrox now is kitable and his gameplay just lies on all you said

Krully4 votes

just played vs an aatrox his q is so slow im able to walk out of it, even when i got hit by the first one, i was able to speed myself up from the second and the minute you have a slow on him hes fucked since all he has is a tiny dash

they should give back his old q, maybe add a spring thing like zac so he's better at diving or something

Phieldworker4 votes

They already reworked my Swain. Love him even more now.

I get why they had to do it because he was a drain tank that was very feast or famish. They have so much trouble playing from behind compared to other champ styles but.

I do understand why someone can be upset when their main changes. But I don’t think Riot ignores us and try their best to appease as many as possible.

IcyPepper3 votes

Dude, the champion is outdated and Riot determined his kit just couldn't be healthily balanced.

Look at old Poppy. Old Urgot. Old Warwick. Master Yi. Old Galio. Sure you'll get a few dedicated mains, but... sometimes change is for the better. Is new Aatrox perfect right out of the gate? Probably not, I'm seeing that he's kinda clunky for most players. Does he have potential to have a playstyle that can be considered remotely healthy and balanced? Definitely more than the aa-drain-tank style from before.

You might have liked it, but that doesn't mean everyone else does. I mean, Yasuo players enjoy Yasuo, right?

LetMeCarry19831 votes

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Yasuo players

If there is any justice in the universe, there would be a special place in hell for these people, if you want to call them people.

Baron of Bread3 votes

Where were you for Sion? Where were you for Yorick? Where were you for Poppy? Mordekaiser? Urgot? Galio?

Many champions have been deleted from the game and several of them delighted the general fanbase, all while leaving the mains out to dry. This is not the first time, nor is it likely the last time. What we do is hope that in the future we get more Warwicks and less Mordekaisers because you aren't going to stop Riot from getting rid of what they deem (sometimes rightly so) mistakes. So pull your pants up, take a deep breath, and figure out what you are doing next.

The scars of losing your main/one-trick/favorite never really heal, but you can find other things to like in the game. And though you may have been left with sorrow, there are others that have been given a dream come true.

From the words of my first main to your Aatrox; I'm dead... so are you.

LetMeCarry19831 votes

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The scars of losing your main/one-trick/favorite never really heal, but you can find other things to like in the game.

So true. My first main was Akali, then Azir, then Kayle and now it's Shyvana. I also main Leona when autofilled. And when I main something, I really main it. I'm talking hundreds upon hundreds of games playing nothing but that champ and I've done it with each of them. You can always find something you like.

Baron of Bread1 votes

I went Sion, Mordekaiser, Shen. Truly I am blessed in my choices of mains. Luckily enough I liked the Shen rework, so I am still rolling with the "ninja".

Nyarlathοtep3 votes

Get over it. His previous design was toxic and obnoxious.

Wínters Dawn2 votes

Personally I think the new trox looks cool. But, then again I'm not an aatrox main. Played the old like 2 times.

And when I think if kindred and what id feel like if she got gutted I do have sympathy for the trox mains who feel betrayed. RiP

GayFluffyUnicorn2 votes

Aatrox is just riots wet dream of what a melee champ should be: looks cool, is dogshit, doesn't deal dmg, isn't reliable, entirely outplayable by every ape, can't tank or teamfight or anything. And btw his kit is cool aatrox could be a great champion but he is held back by so many intentional liabilities that he is just unplayable.

Those who say "hurr durr i have lot of success" yeah i beat the shit out of people in silver-gold flex q too. Doesn't mean he is good. He is still sitting at 45% winrate and "mains" on 53%. Meanwhile every other release in the last 6 months. And all this because "muh melee unreliable". Meanwhile champs like draven and lucian are not "unhealthy" or "statchecks" yeah right. Fuckin hyprocrisy at its finest.

And to your post: Riot doesn't rework cuz of buzzwords but to generate revenue. Otherwise pantheon and tryndamere would have been reworked ages ago but they always have decent to high playrates and well selling skins so fuck that. Hell trynda even gets buffed so i lose another 6 lanes by "haHAA critted you three times in a row xd".

Xurreal2 votes

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The Pain of a Darkin is Eternal

Teridax682 votes

I very much agree with this, but I also wish that we were more unified as a community when it comes to this kind of issue. I've seen a lot of people mocking players who stood up when a champion got their identity scrapped (e.g. "everyone's an Aatrox main now"), when the reality is that many of these players don't want the same to happen to their personal favorite, or just have the empathy to understand how one would feel about that happening to their main. Instead of dividing ourselves, we should send a clear message that preserving a champion's identity is essential to reworking them, and non-negotiable. If Riot could update Taric, Warwick, or Irelia in a manner that clearly had them remain the same champion to the near-totality of problems, they could have done the same to Aatrox, Galio, Swain, and probably even Poppy or Sion, the latter two I personally consider successful reworks. We need to look beyond simply our own apathy, beyond just the basic knowledge that these champions needed to change, and instead see together how those champions could have changed in a manner that stayed true to their old self. If we continue to pick each other apart every time this happens, some developers within Riot will continue to treat a champion's identity as a thing they can change completely on a whim.

MOuHahaHAhahaaaa1 votes

The main issue with this design is that in late even in you are full tank you can't make a full q combo before dying in a 5v5. The visual aspect is a big issue too. but for the rest it's not bad.

Naon1 votes

He's actually pretty strong when played in the right hands. It's nice to see he isn't as braindead anymore and actually requires some form of skill to play and combo correctly.

ModKnightsKemplar1 votes

I didn't play Aatrox before the rework, despite the fact that I loved his visuals and concept. I found him binary and boring.

I'm having quite a lot of fun with the new one. I hope I'm sending Riot a message by picking him up.

DEADLYBONES931 votes

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Because, eventually someone at Riot will decide the champion you love has to go and delete him out of existence. You may not care now, but you will when all the time spent on a champion was wasted.

Don&#039;t play Aatrox. Send Riot a message.

FU! Aatrox is my favourite champion! And before the rework is was a king!

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