Getting tired of seeing Brand every other game

DarkinPrime·Aug 6, 2018·24 votes·10,233 views

Okay? Its not fun. Its annoying, and boring. WHY is brand in every match.

It used to be a joke seeing brand support. It used to suck ass. Now that damage is so stupid, it works fine all the time.

23 Comments

OtterlyLostAug 6, 201815 votes

I wish they'd change him and give him the tools to go mid rather than bot as a support... he only goes down there because the targets are squishier, his base damages are high, and his % health damage means he can do a lot of damage with very little gold or items. :/ he isn't a support, not in any real sense, but people get away with calling him one because he has a single stun. Before the MYMU, you almost never saw support brand.

YourNumber1FanAug 6, 20182 votes

huuu just pick vel koz into him out range him out poke him burst him! if brand gets a full combo off your bad its that simple

OtterlyLostAug 6, 20183 votes

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huuu just pick vel koz into him out range him out poke him burst him! if brand gets a full combo off your bad its that simple

Or he used his targeted AOE ability, landed a stun, and the finished with his pillar. Or he ulted you and it doesn't matter how much he was feeding before, it bouncing between the minions will kill you and proc his passive.

Literally all they had to do to make him a mid laner again would be lower his base damages and raise his scaling.

And picking vel'koz into him doesn't help if you're not the support.

ThefrostyvikingAug 6, 201810 votes

Except brand can just stand in his minions to force you to use W and E.

Which will tilt the ever living daylight out of your farming botlaner.

Meanwhile he himself can leisurely poke with his massive AOE circle that you need 400 movespeed to avoid if he casts it on center.....Ashe for example starts with 325.

So she doesnt hit 400 until like boots + 2 zeal items.

How is Brand in any way alright again?

MeserionAug 6, 20181 votes

Really the only changes they need to fix him is nerf base damage values, and buff the ratios on his abilities. This way he has to commit to building AP to do damage and not 1/2 way with only support items. As for his passive, give it a base damage value of like 20 damage every second with a ratio that adds %-damage based on AP; there you go his passive is now weak with no AP but strong if he builds a lot.

Sadly, it likely Riot will just wind up nerfing him into the ground instead of a more reasonable approach.

VexingRavenAug 7, 20181 votes

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I wish they'd change him and give him the tools to go mid rather than bot as a support... he only goes down there because the targets are squishier, his base damages are high, and his % health damage means he can do a lot of damage with very little gold or items. :/ he isn't a support, not in any real sense, but people get away with calling him one because he has a single stun. Before the MYMU, you almost never saw support brand.

Don't forget his garbage mana costs meaning he can't afford to spam to waveclear like a mid laner needs to do especially if they get somebody like Zed or Yasuo who is manaless and can clear waves easily.

BarcidAug 7, 20181 votes

He very much can still go mid. It's that Brand as a champ has always suffered from two glaring flaws: he is predictable and he is unreliable.

His ult has a tendency to be... moody and just bounce to what it wants to, and seemingly every so often it changes on a whim how far the range it's willing to bounce to is. His Q is a bitch and a half to land at max range unless the target is a) moving predictably or b) directly on top of him so that it hits immediately. Believe it or not the worst place to be is faceplanted in Brand's chest during a 1v1 as that usually means he's getting off the full combo (unless you're able to instagib him).

What bot offers Brand is two things: one he has two targets at all times, so his abilities combo much, much better. Two, Brand gets bushes, which means if the enemy doesn't get to see him cast, the enemy can't tell a combo's incoming.

Honestly, even with Brand's high damage, if vision wasn't such garbage right now (for early game you only basically get a ward every 2 minutes and it only lasts a minute each) Brand would find it much harder to win lane since enemies could see what he's trying to do more often. As it is, he gets one combo off from an unwarded bush and suddenly you're dodging mortar shots under turret the rest of lane because you can't stand to try and fight him.

BeNiceToOthersAug 7, 20181 votes

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I wish they'd change him and give him the tools to go mid rather than bot as a support... he only goes down there because the targets are squishier, his base damages are high, and his % health damage means he can do a lot of damage with very little gold or items. :/ he isn't a support, not in any real sense, but people get away with calling him one because he has a single stun. Before the MYMU, you almost never saw support brand.

Actually, the reason he sees more play as support is mostly because of his ult. In mid, you might not always be able to have your ult bounce on the intended target, but at bot, it will usually bounce between adc and support because they are usually grouped together.

Giga BaboonAug 6, 20187 votes

If you climbed to diamond you wouldn't see brand anymore.

Attticus FinchAug 7, 20186 votes

7% play rate is "every other game"?

Fiddle is played more bot then brand despite being nerfed recently lmao

DarkinPrimeAug 7, 20181 votes

Thats very high pick rate. If it was 10%, I would see him once a match, because 10% of 10 players is one. 7% is not that far behind.

SteelflameAug 7, 20182 votes

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Thats very high pick rate. If it was 10%, I would see him once a match, because 10% of 10 players is one. 7% is not that far behind.

Dude that isn't how pickrate is calculated. Its calculated on PER game. Otherwise, no one gets over 20% pickrate ever. Guess what. Plenty of champs are listed far far higher then that.

DarkinPrimeAug 7, 20181 votes

So then, how many times would I expect to see brand in 100 matches?

MalakAug 7, 20182 votes

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So then, how many times would I expect to see brand in 100 matches?

MalakAug 7, 20184 votes

Can you all stop making threads about a random champion you saw a few games and lost to one day?

You're the 20 millionth person to make a thread like that

All champions feel broken as hell when you lose to them. Brand isn't even op statistically either

DarkinPrimeAug 7, 20182 votes

And out of 20 million, you saw mine AND responded. Thank you for the support!

deadlychuckAug 6, 20183 votes

Because riot's dumb assess effectively removed all % HP damage from the other mages. It's basically the only option left that doesn't get completely shut out due to the constant assassin or tank buffs.

PyrosanAug 6, 20182 votes

Well you could consider banning him, who do you usually ban?

YourNumber1FanAug 6, 20183 votes

Of course we ban one of our teammates picks (▀̿Ĺ̯▀̿ ̿)

Akali PrimeAug 7, 20182 votes

they should change all his abilites to heals and shields since people wanna play him as a supp so damn much :P

Tahminatrix Aug 6, 20181 votes

I just wish brand couldn't buy flat magic pen items and voidstaff :/ (Lol he would still probably carry by going item 3116 item 3174 item 3151 and taking that rune in the resolve tree that heals allies whenever they hit someone you cc`d)

Cptn Han SoloQAug 7, 20181 votes

I have found complete Zen by meditation about how to avoid ilness from video games, the solution was a perma ban on brand so I get to play my botlanes. [sg-miss-fortune]

hOrnnAug 7, 20181 votes

i was having the same problem with Tryndamere , i mean atleast brand is skillshot reliant and doesnt have free crit heals and god mode mobility and manaless, but then i remembered i can just bann everygame like its season 6 Yasuo

edit; i refuse to play brand support because i wont contribute to nerfs to brand mid lane by taking him bot, but he has zero mobility and is very skillshot reliant, theres plenty of unfavorable matchups for him.