Leblanc is pretty much 100% pick/ban at worlds

Nausicäa ··63 votes·14,944 views

Maybe now Riot will finally realize that the revert was a mistake because this champion is disgustingly broken.

Its great that her E tether is basically half the length of the lane and impossible to escape cause counterplay.

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ShadWooo31 votes

The problem is that their rework was utter garbage. They simply don't know what to do with this champion...

I hate LB and her tether hitbox+range, mobility and burst, but at least they had the decency to revert it and admit their rework was a mistake. I wish they did this more often, this season is full of crap that should be reverted asap.

Verxint6 votes

I liked the rework. They could have made the delay reduce with leblancs level so it was 0.5s lategame but still 1.5s in lane. Other than that I don't see what people's issues were, I had a lot more fun playing the reworked version

TonyTonyMordecai2 votes

Same, the ult probably needed a better explanation towards how it worked, but it felt fine minus the wait time (of course others might disagree, but eh). I tried it a couple times but I think I ended up not using the ult or messing it up because I was trying to read it while walking to lane or when I was alone in lane.

Verxint2 votes

The ult took getting used to, but gave you much more interesting combo options and skill expression. W -> RW -> W2 -> RW2 -> Q to chain your passive on multiple enemies in a teamfight was my personal favorite.

TonyTonyMordecai1 votes

Shame I can't try practicing that stuff anymore. I probably could've looked up a video or something for tips on how to use her ultimate properly, but yeah, the delay made you feel like a mage more than an assassin in teamfights or solo adventures.

Verxint1 votes

1.5 second delay was fine in lane and early game, it meant your opponent could react but your damage was still strong. It was just too long lategame, but 0.75 or 0.5 seconds would have been fast enough while still giving some time to respond.

GayFluffyUnicorn2 votes

The problem is having a quick comb/burst assassin turned into this clunky as shit mess that dies before her dmg goes off. But in return gets waveclear and absolutely retarded dmg output IF she goes off.

The rework was a disaster, sorry.

Verxint1 votes

That's why I've said like 5 times in this thread now, make the passive arm time reduce to 0.5 seconds at lategame

And I don't get this claim that she was clunky. All of her animations were the same besides w being a bit slower, which could be adjusted.

Handy Sandy 16 votes

safety + damage it works ok on Ahri because she gives up damage for safety and waveclear.

Leblanc has neither of those so she farms champions instead. When you beat her it's more like you survived rather than outplay her. This champion could've been a whole lot more than whatever this is.

Infernape5 votes

To be fair LB doesn't have waveclear until she hits level 6. And she has to ult to clear waves.

SweedishGunner17 votes

LB is a pure assassin though and honestly waveclear is something assassins need less of, not more of.

Handy Sandy 2 votes

{quoted}

To be fair LB doesn't have waveclear until she hits level 6. And she has to ult to clear waves.

This is just my experience playing against her

You shove wave because she has no waveclear -> W's behind your minions and kills ya

Stay near turret and farm -> She can too, as she's ranged unlike other picks who are weak against this because they're melee (Fizz Yasuo )

Either way clearing waves isn't easy for LB i get that, it's just her whole kit is toxic lol. I'd be happy to give her waveclear if she got her whole damage pattern reworked to fit her theme. Like what even does her Q have to do with illusions?

Nevrankroaton4 votes

You can thank people asking Riot to revert her instead of trying to fix the small rework she got. She was more flexible and interesting in her rework, it just felt weird with the delay. But it was infinitely better than the braindead thing that is pre rework LB.

Leblanc biggest strength is that her burst is very easy to apply and can be made from afar. Double jump + E to catch a carry so the jungle can follow is super strong. Double Q combo. Etc.

If an assassin is picked in pro play despite their waveclear being 'weak', it say a lot about them.

Automated Riven2 votes

She was far more broken with her rework then she is now.

warpenguin55512 votes

It's actually 65%, putting her in a tie for 8th overall with Ryze and Gragas. Not too close to 100%, but she's in the top 10

saltran6 votes

Sssshhhh this is the Gameplay Boards and check OP name, this is a circlejerk thread.

crispy661 votes

what about his name?

saltran4 votes

He/she always shitposts on the Boards, usually being non honest like on this thread in which he/she claims that LeBlanc has near 100% pick ban on Worlds when she has exactly 65.4% preseence

http://gol.gg/champion/champion-stats/46/season-S8/split-ALL/tournament-World%20Championship%20Play-In%202018/patch-ALL/role-MID/league-ALL/

This thread is just a bullshit clickbait title that is straight up lie to farm upvotes and a meme description in which OP says "Rito bad for reverting LB"

crispy663 votes

it's not just OP everyone on the gameplay boards they're either trolls that want upvotes or have no idea what they're talking about "just bad at the game and want to rant in here" it is sad but luckily we have gameplay+ for legit debates and discussions

ShadWooo2 votes

Well 65 is near 100. Depends on your definition of near, mathematically speaking even 1% is near to 100 :)

Nausicäa 1 votes

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He/she always shitposts on the Boards, usually being non honest like on this thread in which he/she claims that LeBlanc has near 100% pick ban on Worlds when she has exactly 65.4% preseence

http://gol.gg/champion/champion-stats/46/season-S8/split-ALL/tournament-World%20Championship%20Play-In%202018/patch-ALL/role-MID/league-ALL/

This thread is just a bullshit clickbait title that is straight up lie to farm upvotes and a meme description in which OP says "Rito bad for reverting LB"

Lets take a look at your post history.

Saltran - " cause Kai'sa isnt that strong"

LOLOLOLOLOL

There goes your credibility.

saltran1 votes

And I still believe that, she's the best ADC in the game and yet Worlds teams rather play against her than against than against Aatrox Akali Urgot Ryze

But I guess that the Worlds teams coachs and are just dump banning them over Kai'Sa and they should hire a Silver 3 analyst from Reddit or the Boards

I know that you hate logic but saying "Kai'Sa isn't that strong" doenst mean that she isn't strong, keyword is "that", what I mean is that she is not on the lvl of Kalista on last Worlds.

Anyway, will you admit that saying that LB has near 100% pick/ban is full bs when she has 65.4% pick/ban or you dont care about maths aswell?

Lunar ArcS11 votes

Over exaggerates worlds statistics

UPVOTESFROMBOARDS. Wew this is why we dont get taken seriously

Naymliss7 votes

This, among MANY other reasons

PaffWasTaken8 votes

Riot:

*Reworks Broken Leblanc*

*Leblanc becomes even more broken*

*Nerfs Leblanc until she becomes as balanced as she could*

*Revert Leblanc to her previous broken state*

Community:

"???????"

Spank the Fox3 votes

Where’s the part where the community was begging for the LeBlanc revert because of said nerfs?

chipndip12 votes

You forgot the parts where people wanted her reworked, then wanted her reverted.

Flashes5 votes

Honestly just reduce the tether range... I think they forgot to reduce the tether range when reverting the champion

Spank the Fox1 votes

They removed the slow from it compared to pre-rework.

Automated Riven2 votes

And range. It's like 150-200 range shorter then it used to be.

SweedishGunner5 votes

They could reduce the tethers speed or range. The really oppressive combo is where she lands the chain in your face after W but then takes the W back but the chain stays connected due to its insane range.

Waffle Champion5 votes

Her Tether can be dodged. Her biggest weakness is being pushed to the turret, so just walk into lane and shove until she's irrelevant.

HungryAngry2SPP6 votes

Xerath vsLeblanc I push wave, she doesnt care about it, jump on me using all spell (lets say she even misses E), RW thunder ignite and she gets 300gold. Not so good tactic afterall.

Poro Lord4 votes

I personally hate any champ that can blink around.

My reflexes are too slow, and I get like a "deer in headlights" thing going on, where I fuck up everything.

I know the pros are a lot faster than me, but they are still human.

I don't think anyone likes her shenanigans.

Automated Riven1 votes

If you pay attention to what she can do and react proactively that will help your reflexes.

Fisher No Chains4 votes

Well tbh the rework was pick or ban in Spring split, Rift Rivals and Worlds last year, so I guess the revert wasn't too bad for pro play. :)

FilDaFunk4 votes

Look, her chain is a skillshot, so it already has counterplay. If she uses her dash to help with aiming then, either she missed a big part of her damage or you got too close.

Ameliea1 votes

^ This, she already hit the ability, unlike Karma or Noc who have a targeted tether, therefore you can actually escape theirs. The timer on LeBlanc e is to give you time to reposition.

NineTailedMystic1 votes

There's nothing to "reposition" for. You get snared, you die since everything else she does is point and click.

Nausicäa 2 votes

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Look, her chain is a skillshot, so it already has counterplay. If she uses her dash to help with aiming then, either she missed a big part of her damage or you got too close.

lol?

Its a good thing she does need her W damage to pretty much instantly kill you then isnt it?

She gets close to you only to instantly kill you, poor Leblanc what a sacrifice she made.

Kelg4 votes

That's what I was saying since day 1 of the revert. Assassin with 0 counterplay, 0 risk, and a 10 mile long chain that hard CCs you when you can't even get away from it with flash. Shit is cancerous.

Häxel4 votes

so what is the point of this thread? not taking care that the reworked lb was also an even stronger competive pick? Or that the og lb before rework and revert got not as much picked for quite some time as both versions now?

Reworked Lb had such a save wv and even more dmg if you played her good. Reverted Lb gets now played cause we also have a lot of variety in midlane picks like irelia, Urgot, galio. Her now having not good waveclear (she cealrs with ehr only escape spell) as well as which current junglers we have (no lee sins, elises or sejus) favors her hard.

Limrick4 votes

Maybe next time Riot will just ignore the reddit babies crying for a revert for an absolutely cancerous champion. It's like they forgot why LB and Rengar were reworked in the first place. Either leave them alone where they're obviously more balanced (post-rework), but "less fun"(highly debatable), or revert them then gut them until a competent team an rework them for real this time.

Rengar and LB have historically been the least fun champs to play against when they're even a bit strong, then after they both get reworked and nerfed into a good spot where half the community isn't tearing their collective hair out, they listen to like 200 mains on reddit and revert them. At least before the revert nobody played those walking tumors you call champions.

floo3 votes

This is so true.. not even mentioning the fact how reworked Rengar Q had 4 times more skill expression than a bland 1k empowered AA.

French Courtesan3 votes

LeBlancs rework was complete failure, it lowered her skill floor, anyone could play her, made laning phase even more obnoxious, because ANYONE can hit double Q, just wait for mark to proc and she lost her oneshot potential later in the game. She couldnt oneshot ADC for gods sake. On top of that reworked version of ultimate was clunky and annoying to use. I literally double tapped ult any time my clone was ready to not fuck up my combo. Yeah current iteration is broken if played well but reworked version was just over powered untill she got nerfed and became useless beyond laning phase.

Nik Nikerson3 votes

Something will always be pick/ban at worlds. I don't get why people are so worked up about it.

I7A6X2v23 votes

Q - R - W An ally has been slay.

RoseburyNoire1 votes

In what game is a squishy staying at W range of a LB with all her CDs available?

5050BS2 votes

Because old LeB was BROKEN AF. That is why she was reworked. But the old Riot employees are all gone and the new ones in control right now have no clue what they are doing.

Dewott6102 votes

Its a problem when even when flashing away from her chain, thts still not enough to break it

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