Oh boy, I'm so excited for this Vayne flavor of the month

HateDaddy·Jun 25, 2015·92 votes·9,149 views

It's really fun going back to having a carry do max LP% damage, and no that's not a typo, on each silver bolt proc, Vayne takes a maximum % of my LP. Bronze is calling my name.

Furthermore, I hate having Vayne on my team because they all think they're Doublelift or Uzi or Shotgun or whatever that kids name is. Here's what they do: they start off a fight by tumbling into the enemy team, instantly dying and shout "WHERE IS MY FUCKING PEEL?" Then in all-chat it's, "GG terrible team." Meanwhile, the enemy Vayne is actually doublelift smurfing in my game 1v5ing, pentakilling us while soloing baron while eating cheese sticks shouting in all-chat "lel I'm Peng Yinglang or something like that, I've got a bowl cut. Trash trash trash."

Enjoy the fun ride of the Vayne train.

187 Comments

HateDaddyJun 26, 201545 votes

Vayne completes a botrk

Suddenly, a particle effect similar to master yis when ulted appears saying

"Can't be dueled" "Can't be dueled" "Can't be dueled" "Can't be dueled"

The Bíg TicketJun 26, 20154 votes

Graves blows her up completely...Malzahar shits on her until she gets a Qss, same goes for Warwick. Yi can beat her at all points of the game if he doesn't get stunned. Fizz and Talon can both burst her....yes she is a very strong duelist and among the best with QSS but she does ZERO AoE damage, only single target attacks and spells...you know who else has 0 AoE damage? Warwick and he beats everyone in a duel except a fed Nasus and Jax maybe.

What Is SmiteJun 27, 20154 votes

Is that a Challenge? Fiora + item 3715

IlIIllIIllIIlIlJun 25, 201527 votes

agreed vayne is op af and super annoying and by far my least favorite champ to play against

HateDaddyJun 25, 201533 votes

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agreed vayne is op af and super annoying and by far my least favorite champ to play against

no bro max hp% true damage is a fun and engaging mechanic that is healthy for the game.

IpolsJun 25, 201529 votes

hey I picked a tank and vayne got 1st blood, what should I build? armor? no bro she does true dmg your gold is wasted. Hp? no bro she does %hp dmg your gold is wasted. fuck this shit, be ready for the full AD mundo

HateDaddyJun 25, 20159 votes

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hey I picked a tank and vayne got 1st blood, what should I build? armor? no bro she does true dmg your gold is wasted. Hp? no bro she does true dmg your gold is wasted. fuck this shit, be ready for the full AD mundo

I'm going to build a bridge back to fountain and AFK in, it's a better alternative than trying to counter build vayne

Mandang0Jun 26, 20154 votes

Then just build damage if you honestly don't believe defensive stats work against Vayne.

HateDaddyJun 26, 20153 votes

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Then just build damage if you honestly don't believe defensive stats work against Vayne.

Oh yeah that will definitely work

Mandang0Jun 26, 201517 votes

It'll work a hell of a lot better than crying about it.

HateDaddyJun 26, 20151 votes

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It'll work a hell of a lot better than crying about it.

Yeah I'll just go full damage Nasus

I'll let you know how it goes

ChaoticPineconeJun 26, 20159 votes

A full damage nasus and a full tank nasus will both be just as effective agasint the vayne in a 1v1. Might as well go full damage and one-shot turrets.

Or full AP. I like full AP.

terkmcJun 26, 20154 votes

item 3143 item 3110 item 3075 still effective

BergkJun 26, 20152 votes

Not really, I was Shen and had these items item 3260 item 3068 item 3143 item 3075 item 3065 I land a three man taunt to start a team fight (vayne as one of the three). I die in about 2.5 seconds. Go to death recap 1720 true damage from silver bolts.... like wtf 1720 TRUE damage. I don't care if silver bolts do %hp, but they should still do physical damage.

terkmcJun 26, 20158 votes

First thing first: NEVER trust death recap. I've been killed by fucking revive before =_=

qetzelJun 26, 20152 votes

Even against tanks most of Vayne's damage is still AD. Three attacks with crit is much more damage than 60+8% Max HP.

Basically, Death recap is lying.

dr lichdeathJun 26, 20154 votes

actually nazsus is one of the few counters vs vayne cuz att speed slowing w that and anything with cc and enough hp to cc vayne wins vs her but i think full ap is the best go mid go ap rek the enemy cuz u got dmg on ur q and e and u got a tanky ult also get a zeal ive checked and the stacks get added after the ad reduction so baicly if uve got 100 ad u do like 75 ad + stacks ad +ap dmg!!get rekt with 1 q during mid game too!

Meep ManJun 25, 20157 votes

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hey I picked a tank and vayne got 1st blood, what should I build? armor? no bro she does true dmg your gold is wasted. Hp? no bro she does %hp dmg your gold is wasted. fuck this shit, be ready for the full AD mundo

Build these: item 3143 item 3110 That way she has 30% reduced attack speed while attacking you. If you really hate Vayne, like enough to always pick a counter, play these guys: Malphite Nasus Nunu

If a bad Vayne is on your team... good luck. Unless you are Tahm Kench or some weird support Kalista, you cant control what they do.

IpolsJun 26, 20153 votes

The thing is, if I build FH I payed 3k+ gold only for the attack speed slow, mana+cdr, the armor is totally wasted. but yes, I usually go abyssal scepter fh and rand on maplhite to destroy her. I have the physical need to make vayne and teemo players feel bad :P

PartholonianJun 26, 201511 votes

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The thing is, if I build FH I payed 3k+ gold only for the attack speed slow, mana+cdr, the armor is totally wasted.

No, it isn't. Vayne still does plenty of physical damage, including the AA damage itself and (probably) BOTRK passive. If she tried to kill you with ONLY her true damage, it would take a lot longer.

HateDaddyJun 26, 20155 votes

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Build these: That way she has 30% reduced attack speed while attacking you. If you really hate Vayne, like enough to always pick a counter, play these guys:

If a bad Vayne is on your team... good luck. Unless you are Tahm Kench or some weird support Kalista, you cant control what they do.

item 3140 summoner 1 ?????

BiffoloJun 26, 20155 votes

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?????

facepalm. If she is able to qss that stuff without being punished for it, then your team deserves to lose lol. Your team should have enough other crap to lock her down if she blows it on a nunu snowball.

HateDaddyJun 26, 20152 votes

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facepalm. If she is able to qss that stuff without being punished for it, then your team deserves to lose lol. Your team should have enough other crap to lock her down if she blows it on a nunu snowball.

Vayne would take cleane and/or purchase QSS simply for those spells alone and shed likely run banshees veil vs a Malphite. Please don't tell me how to play the game.

BiffoloJun 26, 20154 votes

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?

Vayne would take cleane and/or purchase QSS simply for those spells alone and shed likely run banshees veil vs a Malphite. Please don't tell me how to play the game.

Merc and bveil means she has two defensive items, hurting her damage output a noticeable chunk. It will still be high (as it should be for the late game carry) but much lower. And if she has cleanse and you can't punish her outside of teamfights, you deserve to lose the game.

HouseCat01Jun 26, 20152 votes

item 3143 item 3075 item 3110 beyond that, I have no advice

Hyrum GraffJun 26, 20151 votes

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hey I picked a tank and vayne got 1st blood, what should I build? armor? no bro she does true dmg your gold is wasted. Hp? no bro she does %hp dmg your gold is wasted. fuck this shit, be ready for the full AD mundo

Frozen Heart and Randuins Omen for hella AS slow, as well as an upgraded sweeper or pink trink.

Especially during her ult, less than half Vayne's damage is true (dint believe me? Try playing vayne without any crit or arpen and see what happens), so armor + AS slow is highly effective against her.

And before you label me as a vayne main, I haven't played a game of vayne and probably never will - I don't have the apm for mechanically intensive adcs -- my adc pool is pretty much ashe (bless her slow AAs -- pun intended).

IpolsJun 27, 20151 votes

why should I label you as a vayne main? just buyng 170 armor and seeing that 90 is wasted makes me sad, as slow is really effective against others adc, too. It's not just something that counters vayne.

Hyrum GraffJun 28, 20151 votes

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why should I label you as a vayne main?

Because too many people try to dismiss other people's arguments by accusing them of just defending their main. Glad to see you're not one of them :)

just buyng 170 armor and seeing that 90 is wasted makes me sad,

Sure, but vayne is also a relatively short range adc, who's vulnerable to all the same things as other adcs -- getting chain cc'd and/or bursted.

And she's meant to be a hyper-scaling adc with a terrible laning phase. but that's not really a good argument IMO -- you should still be able to counterbuild if she gets ahead.

as slow is really effective against others adc, too. It's not just something that counters vayne.

Agreed, but this doesn't make my point invalid.

IpolsJun 28, 20151 votes

Can't I just hate her? :D item 3751

Hyrum GraffJun 28, 20151 votes

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Can't I just hate her? :D

Of course! My personal hate champ is Viktor . Lazor is impossible to dodge and impossible to hit when I play him, and he just does way too much damage.

It's totally fine to hate irrationally, as long as you acknowledge it is irrational (Vik is weak to longer-range poke, and everyone else seems to be able to dodge the lazor -- but that doesn't make him feel any less BS to play against).

DJ Di0Jun 25, 201517 votes

When you get one on your team and the first sound you hear after loading are:

"Welcome to Summoner's Ri- - SILVER OF THE MOON!"

Goodbye, promos.

LadyRenlyJun 26, 20151 votes

What would you suggest, then?

killd0zerJun 26, 201510 votes

Not trying a champion for the first time in ranked with a mobafire guide

HateDaddyJun 26, 201513 votes

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Not trying a champion for the first time in ranked with a mobafire guide

???

Mobafire told me 6 Zeke's Shen is legit

Ancestor007Jun 26, 20153 votes

But... but... come on. Its no way it's not going to work if you found it on the internet. Right? Karthus item 3115 item 3153 item 3060 item 3254 item 3508 item 3074 is op

Arcane AzmadiJun 26, 20155 votes

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Not trying a champion for the first time in ranked with a mobafire guide

Any Mobafire guide that suggests Vayne should take Silver Bolts at level 1 must have been written by a pilchard.

SyndrarellaJun 25, 20159 votes

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HateDaddyJun 25, 20152 votes

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I dunno LeWTF is with that champion, but every time I have in my team she will be CS'ing during teamfights, running away when the support/jungler go in, etc. but the enemy Vayne will OP as fuck, never skipping a beat in lane and condemning you against your own tower, etc. Meanwhile friendly Vayne will be condemning enemies to safety.

I swear it is as if it were a curse.

CONDEMN IS NOT A NUKE

TTUPhoenixJun 26, 20151 votes

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CONDEMN IS NOT A NUKE

It does add a stack of silver bolts, to be fair, so it can be used to proc the third application if you can't get in auto range. I've seen a kill or two secured that way.

HateDaddyJun 26, 20153 votes

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It does add a stack of silver bolts, to be fair, so it can be used to proc the third application if you can't get in auto range. I've seen a kill or two secured that way.

Condemns range is the same as her AA range

Vayne doesn't exceed 550 range in any facet

YossarianSenseiJun 26, 20158 votes

Lol how are people still complaining about Vayne's True dmg?

Yall even take the time to calculate just how small of a portion of Vayne's dmg is Silver Bolts? Or how weak Silver bolts is compared to most abilities?

The only thing remotely worthy of complaining about on Vayne is her survivability, but it takes so long for her to actually deal more damage than a normal ADC that in most games it isn't a concern.

SmokinSickStyleJun 26, 20152 votes

IT would have been OK if she wasn't Kalista like mobility that deals 50% of your AD every 2 s, to not talk about her ultimate giving 70 freaking AD to further augment her desperate need for damage, all of it, stacked with the rest of her kit make Silver bolts' broken mechanic of True dmg based on MAX% so unnecessary it's not even funny.

Oh look, i'm Sion with 450 armor, Death recap for 40% of the dmg done by silver bolts, if she was just an anti tank i would be OK, like God'Maw does, but thanks to her overload of damage put freely into her kit, she's anti anything that has a healthbar and can die.

It takes her longer to deal more dmg than a normal ADC?

Dude as soon as she gets lvl 2 ultimate and a BotRK she already does MUCH more damage than most ADC and can duel any other champ in the game, Vayne having a weak early game is a myth, the only thing she lacks is any superior ranged ability that is used for poke like Ezreal, Caitlyn, Varus and so on, guess what, they are champs that only have that as advantage, the ability to poke, nothing else.

Using all your resources to save a decent Vayne's ass wins you the game instead of trying to kill \ zone the enemy ADC.

Icestar1186Jun 26, 20151 votes

Kalista-like mobility? The only champion with as much mobility as Kalista is Kassadin.

SmokinSickStyleJun 26, 20151 votes

FYI Kass' ult maxed and Vayne's Q maxed have the same CD, so yeah, she has even better mobility if we are not counting that Kass can get through walls.

Don't forget the free movement speed Vayne gets, that with ult, when chasing is free 90 ms.

Icestar1186Jun 27, 20151 votes

Kassadin has a reason to buy CDR.

diamondlightJun 26, 20158 votes

Really? Another Vayne thread, have you ever played against an AP Kog'maw?

First he has 1800 range on ult, and AP Kog Maw HURTS (at rank 3 it does 420 per hit in an area with 300 AP) Now add BOTRK plus his W (Bio Arcane Barrage) at 710 range PER AUTO:

8% of Current Health physical damage
10% of Max Health (6% + 3-4% from AP) magic damage

That's almost 20% of your health per AUTO as On-Hit. Sure you have armor and magic resist, pffft, not enough.

Vayne has to hit the same target 3 times without getting CC'd and without switching targets, just to proc silver bullets once. Her tactic is dueling and catching people solo or over extended.

Kog is the shredder, he's always been the shredder. His weakness? Squishy. Protect him? and he'll kill your whole damn team.

Long Live Kog, I don't want him nerfed either. It's part of the game, Vayne and Kog are late game hypercarries. Don't let it get to late game, or figure out how to catch them or CC them. One Morgana Q and Vayne is dead. Amumu, Nautilus, a Sejuani Ult, you name it, lock her down and she's a gonner.

atomicwitJun 26, 20152 votes

You say AP Kog but then BoRK? Anyway, AP Kog is pretty screwed if he gets flanked or the game ends before he hits the powerspikes. Plus, most AP Kog's I see don't aim that well.

RedCycloneJun 26, 20157 votes

I see you picked a poke support like Sona or Lulu Well ima spend the first 20 mins of the game farming and do literally nothing to attack the enemy team until you go back to base this is when I enter god mode and get my ass wrecked 1v2

fuckin Vayne man...

chipndip1Jun 26, 20153 votes

I just supported a Vayne and that didn't happen at all. With Sona. We won.

She's more like a 50/50 than a "My guy sucks and yours rocks" sort of deal. Some champs are like that for me though. >_>

...especially since I lost supporting another Vayne directly after. -_-

Raid Boss MordeJun 26, 20157 votes

Meanwhile in Korea, Vayne has a 44% play-rate at the moment. In NA, she has about a 30% play-rate. If there are about 125 champs, and ONE champ is chosen 1 in every 3 games, then you know there's something wrong with that champion.