Edge of Night is counterpart for Zhonya, if you nerf it, then nerf Zhonya as well

PiVoRx·Feb 13, 2017·3 votes·1,149 views

If recives a hit then should as well,

Also is still number 1 cancer item in the game.

13 Comments

Starcraft243verFeb 13, 20176 votes

AP/ARMOR Options : item 3157
AD:AS/MR Options : item 3091 item 3139 item 3156 item 3814

Woo so balanced.

LauchmelderFeb 13, 20175 votes

Didn't know Zhonyas could be cast every 3 seconds (WARNING: overexaggerated).

item 3814 item 3139 item 3156 give you a total of 175AD, 115MR, 10%CDR any 10% Lifesteal. There's LITERALLY no falloff in damage if you build these 3 items while becoming pretty much unkillable by any mage unless you royally fuck up.

item 3157 gives you 70 AP, 45 Armor and 10% CDR. That's, compared to AD, nothing.

And here I'm not even including components.

item 3191 needs to be stacked to get 45 armor and be as strong as it can get. Meanwhile item 3155 gets the Zhonyas effect ("he becomes unkillable because Zhonyas QQ") for a mere 1300G.

But go on, tell me more about how AD is worse than AP right now in terms of itemization.

HeresyHorusFeb 13, 20175 votes

EoN active is spammable while Zhonya's is not.
EoN active is fool-proof while you can fuck yourself up with Zhonya's.
EoN active is never useless against ability users unlike Zhonya's against ADs.
EoN gives extra penetration + move speed in addition to stats and active unlike Zhonya.
EoN can be used by all champs as they all must use aa sometime unlike Zhonya.

after all the ap items nerfs and ad items buffs Zhonya has become a niche item on a very few champs like swain, fiddle and morgana only.

CatastropFeb 13, 20175 votes

I'm sorry, but you have no room to talk here when you have multiple MR defensive items at your disposal, while we have only Zhonya's that pretty much has half its power budget siphoned into an awful cancer active. So, and please pardon my language, shut your whore mouth.

JbelsFeb 13, 20173 votes

Edge of Night allows you to effectively have a semi-permanent banshee's veil without giving up an item slot's worth of defensive stats. Literally every game where there's a jungler that can abuse it, they have that shield up more often than not

VekknaFeb 13, 20173 votes

I agree! "Nerf" Zhonya's to give a passive shield proc that absorbs 400 physical damage.

Let's "nerf" Zhonya's down to Maw's level! You'd be on board with that idea, right?

JanakinFeb 13, 20172 votes

They also nerfed qss in terms of Zed's ult cancellation. Zhonya unchanged.

SpârkyFeb 13, 20171 votes

but qss and zhonya are not comparable because they were meant to do 2 separate things. they wanted qss to only prevent cc so that people can get away and zhonya is in my opinion meant to be to prevent a huge wave of burst so that you as the mage don't die.