Why does Graves have more base armor at level 18 than Jax and Olaf

FalconPawwwwnch·May 1, 2016·21 votes·1,133 views

When Graves has just as good if not better of a resist steroid and is ranged

17 Comments

The DeckownerMay 1, 201614 votes

Because graves is a bullshit champion , his identity is a tanky brusier upclose ranged burst dps crit aoe adc.

This sounds fucked up isnt it.

MarshbouyMay 1, 20166 votes

thats becasue it is

TheRealBazMay 2, 20161 votes

tanky brusier upclose ranged burst dps crit aoe adc mage jungler. there fixed it for you

Lady HammerlockMay 2, 20161 votes

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Because graves is a bullshit champion , his identity is a tanky brusier upclose ranged burst dps crit aoe adc.

This sounds fucked up isnt it.

Wrong he is a tank,mage,assasin,marksmen,bruiser

BluePolarizerMay 1, 20168 votes

Graves is a tanky DPS assassin burst mage late game lane bully.

RisenDarkKnightMay 1, 20166 votes

I was going to say because Jax and Olaf get a ton of Resists in their kit, but then I remembered Graves can get 120 extra Armor from his E.[slayer-jinx-unamused]

The DeckownerMay 2, 20162 votes

and olaf/jax's resistance is from their ultimate•﹏•

MyrmironMay 1, 20164 votes

Graves needs defense because of his short range. Without good resistances he would die before even dealing any damage. That is also why he gets defense while moving in and loses it when moving out. His whole idea is "he sits in your face with a shotgun". I personally don't think Graves is op right now. When facing 1 toplane I usually win lane hard after a few levels, but lose a little early on which I think is fair.

Count ZubatMay 2, 20163 votes

He gets up to 120 ARMOR from his E!!! It's fucking Thornmail+Cloth armor for free, and on top of that, he has good base armor. And huge ass burst. And really good mobility. And melts turrets in seconds. And lifesteals fuckton of damage from just warlords bloodlust. He is a universal champion which can be played everywhere. No, he isn't fair in any bit. He is completely busted.

MyrmironMay 2, 20161 votes

He doesn't have any real means of CC and if he misjudges the situation or overextends he's done for. He needs resistances to work in the way he's intended to work. Also, his burst as well as his auto attacks are avoidable. Stay behind your minions in lane and see his damage die. Thanks to all of his build in AOE he autopushes the lane, and thanks to his short range harassing you under the turret is very risky for him. I think he's manageable and only really a problem if you let him damage you for free.

SpârkyMay 2, 20161 votes

I agree with this. I am a Graves main (I'm sorry) and to be fair since his q got nerfed a little bit a while back hes a bit more reasonable early game and wont burst you as bad early. In my honest opinion yes he gets a lot of armor from his e but its not like it's an instant. Graves is fairly easily kited around in team fights because of his short dash and personally now they just recently nerfed him again making it so his autos scale slightly less off ad but crits do more. This hurts him quite a bit early because he wont deal as much damage but he will in late game. Thats just my thoughts I'd say hes not too op like some champs and he is easily countered and can be outplayed.

ZorasamaMay 2, 20163 votes

Because he's OP and need nerf. Simple.

SpârkyMay 2, 20161 votes

To be fair hes not op at all. Graves just got nerfed last patch and it hurt his early game and again graves is easily outplayed and has counterplayed. If you play someone like poppy into him once poppy gets an iceborn gauntlet or sunfire cape its over for graves until late game.