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Patch 7.2 Feedback from Diamond2+

Ahristocats··2 votes·1,388 views

Katarina still gamebreaking, still permabanned honestly i don't know how one can look at her and tell "look let's remove 10% bonus AD from a spell she uses once to do damage" the entire katarina combo deals so much damage, her dagger base damage DOESN'T MAKE SENS for a ranged point and click ressourceless spell

Darius overall nothing has changed against tanks like poppy or maokai, or against picks like yasuo, but against riven who dodges your Q you lose 15% more damage as well as 10 AD on YOUR ENTIRE kit which you notice against high damage top laners like riven or fiora, but you don't notice against maokai tl dr: Darius loses more against his counters, and still does the same thing against the champs he counters, was it riot's intention?

Gragas holy fucking shit, this dude is usefull now. He no longer backs at level 3 and in teamfight his sustain has been increased. His niche is still the same, his damage is still the same, the 2 changes allowed him to BE ABLE to do his job without having things like early jungle ruinning him

Lulu FINALLY AN ENCHENTER NOT NAMED KARMA THAT CAN FIGHT AGAINST MAGES, YESSSSSSSSS Riot realised that enchenters damage sucked hard and that being bullied out of the lane isn't fun, my last game lulu was able to win 2v2 with cait against jhin+zyra, and they had like 50 hp at the end, imagine what it would have been without this +10 damage on passive at level one now if you can do the same for Sona would be good for high elo support mains

Zedwill be back to permapick, right now no one is banning him and when people will realise that it's happening 80% ban rate will be here again. Lethality buff straight up made zed going from "not able to kill anyone" to "potentially kill someone if odds are in my favor", not only this but Edge of the night makes him able to pressure the entire map with the new cooldown in mid game if ahead

Yasuo i thought he would disappear from high elo, but actually something interesting happened New patch made top lane yasuo disappearing, he can no longer trade with anyone top lane, i can't see a lane in his favor But mid lane Yasuo is back, going mid farm until mid game and then fight in mid game which is what yasuo is supposed to do

Jhin armor pen build is back, and it's cancer

summoner 6 garbage, take cleanse on mid, and flash on bruisers

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Big Lincoln4 votes

mages ruined summoner 6 for the people who it was meant for

im not surprised, ranged scums always abuse melee toys

rip dyrone

Ralanr2 votes

Am I the only one who likes building crit on the armor pen ADCs?

Ahristocats1 votes

it's not really about liking, games are decided in early/mid games, and lethatlity was buffed on this part of the game If you combine jhin with lethality you end up with a marksmen outdamaging almost everyone before late game which shouldn't be intended

Salron2 votes

And you determined all this in a handful of hours? With 2 games played since the patch? ¿

Ahristocats1 votes

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i didn't put feedback of everything in the patch, i just put feedback of what i saw MYSELF which is why i didn't put yi in this patch

Qepu1 votes

my boi graggy back in the game

Zerglinglol1 votes

Ugh I hope Zed isnt really back. I hate him :(

Ahristocats1 votes

summoner 6 forgot about this, it has become useless

The JigSAW1 votes

Also, as a Diamond player what do you think of the Yi buffs this patch?

Ahristocats2 votes

didn't meet a yi yet, my prediction is that skilled yi will be better with this W buff

The JigSAW1 votes

For the most part, I agree with you on everything you said.

I disagree only on Yasuo. The main reason why is I think we'll still be seeing plenty of him top lane because of one major flaw Riot made with his "nerf" on the E. They removed 10-50 base damage, but added 0.2 bonus AD scaling - so, let's also remember he stacks up to two times on that E.

So old Yasuo would hit 20 + AP on his 0.5 resourceless, stacking up to two more times E ability for 50% more damage. Now, he does 10 + AP + 20% bonus AD, stacking up to two more times for 50% more damage.

You have two choices: Build an AD/AP item like rageblade or gunblade, or go with heavy AD. Since he needs one and one-third item to crit at 100% chance, he can just build IE/PD/Duskblade/Mercurial/Bloodthirster and he'll crush everybody even worse than he did before. Taking 10-50 base damage away means nothing when now, 300 bonus ad = 60 bonus damage which means at higher levels he'll out-scale his previous damage! If he does build an AP item, its even more damage early on that'll counter the "nerf"

But, if he goes top good luck to him. Riven will be waiting, patiently.

EndlessSorcerer5 votes

Only the base damage on Yasuo's E is amplified. The ratios won't be.

IIRC, he will need 300+ bonus AD to even out the damage dealt by a stacked E at max rank.

Quite frankly, I have no issues if Yasuo builds full damage to get his E's damage back.

Not only will it be later in the game, but he won't have any real defensive items.

Ahristocats1 votes

the multiple E don't get the bonus AD

RlP K0BE1 votes

How is summoner 6 trash now? Seems like it will still be useful for junglers or champs who benefit from roaming.

Ahristocats1 votes

the 2 seconds delay ruined it for bruisers at least, can you imagine waiting 2 seconds in teamfight with darius to get a massive bonus ms?

they say it's a ramp up, but it's bullshit. try to use it it's not a ramp up at least you feel like after 2 seconds you suddenly get a lot of movement speed

and if you use it to escape, it's the same thing you need to wait 2 seconds until then you don't have the bonus ms can get hit by skillshots ect... which is why Viktor in one of my game took cleanse instead of ghost

for my part, i can't imagine using ghost on any bruisers now Hecarim will still be the same i think because he uses E+ghost then wait a lot of time but he won't catch you like before unless you're close to him because again the 2 seconds delay

Blàdedancer1 votes

What exactly did they do to Zed, Gragas, and Jhin?

Ahristocats1 votes

gragas had +3 base armor, and passive healing was increased by 2%

zed had no buffs but duskblade+edge of the night got buffed, additionally lethality damage was buffed same for jhin

Kaioko1 votes

I'm disappointed you didn't look at the gunblade changes for your thoughts on Katarina. It renders your post even more questionable considering it's the first champion you look at.

Ahristocats1 votes

Honestly she's still permabanned so it's even harder to make an opinion at her, but if people ban her there is a reason

I played multiple time against katarina and gunblade active damage and E damage was really the last thing katarina needed to be nerfed compared to Q/passive damage

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