Making Barrier Stand Out from Heal

Tis a nice day··25 votes·1,637 views

CURRENT BARRIER: Shield self by 95 + 20 X level for 2 seconds. (115-455)

PROPOSED BARRIER: Shield self by 120 + 30 X level (150-660). Shield decays by 8% max amount every 0.25 seconds (lasts maximum 3.25 seconds if undisturbed).

Further sets apart Barrier's role as an anti-burst summoner ability without making it a flat out number-strong beef shield.

16 Comments

Xela Syab4 votes

since they kinda mashed ghost and heal together maybe they should mash cleanse and barrier together?

Tis a nice day1 votes

I'd be fine with this.

Unironic SJW2 votes

I'd just make live Barrier give 10 + 2(Level) Armor and MR along side the shield.

Knight SoIaire 5 votes

or a simple %dmg reduction for 2 or 3 seconds after activating, would diferentiate it from heal rather good heal would be for aoe utility barrier would be for squishy anti burst

A Drowned Fish2 votes

Maybe make heal do its thing overtime? Would add incentive for squishes to take barrier as it is instant damage relieved, as apposed to healing over time to sustain back up in lane or in long skirmishes.

Tis a nice day1 votes

This is a good idea. Makes heal a much more sustain-oriented ability rather than an instant bonus health surprise ability as it's currently used.

Auryiel2 votes

Make the CD go down by a large percentage if the whole shield is blown through

When used properly you effectively make it available much, much more often than other defensive spells or you make your opponents not want to hit you for 2 seconds

khorney1 votes

I prefer barrier over heal. Less cd by like 30 sec or something

Worst Mid Ever1 votes

Should be a spellshield for use against Zed Talon Leblanc with summoner 3 being used against Irelia Fiora Riven Katarina, just having a flat shield or heal just makes it all purpose, mandatory and boring. Id like to see all summoners become viable, summoner 1 should have a lower CD and I feel like summoner 14 is already a good pick since it counters the heal your enemy will run 99% of the time and the popular tops are healers Vladimir Irelia Hecarim Maokai Nasus Chogath that always TP bot.

Oleandervine1 votes

In Infinite Crisis, there's a shielding ability that self heals for as long as the shield remains active. This could be an interesting thing to mimic in remaking Barrier, as it could force a choice between Heal or Barrier.

Ryuku Cruxis1 votes

Honestly, I'd rather they should just remove the movespeed from heal completely, maybe lower the heal amount and the cd, making it more of a "I'm sustaining" summoner more so than a "survive a gank without having to burn flash" summoner.

But some armor/mr scaling on the shield would also be sexy.

TheI3igDaddy1 votes

I've been in favor of doubling current Barrier's shield, but only having it stay active for ONE second.

That way it can be used very well to block burst damage that you can see coming, but you really have to time it right.

Although doing this would be another indirect nerf to Karthus D:

LoL Ergo Urgot1 votes

I thought barrier did stand out in that it is not effected by grievous wounds. Am I wrong?

Tis a nice day1 votes

Yes, but a summoner ability holding its advantage purely through doing better vs grievous wounds makes it a niche bonus for an already niche status effect.

LoL Ergo Urgot1 votes

Hmmm, but ignite is very popular. It directly counters ignite. I am not seeing how that makes it niche.

Kingsgrave1 votes

Just combine it with Cleanse

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