"We have more plans for Akali and Irelia"

D357R0Y3R··45 votes·14,406 views

"for some folks like Akali and Irelia we're planning more followup work after we've done some tuning on 8.24" quoting maplenectar

It's absolutly fucking cancer that new champions and new reworks Zoe Azir Ryze Aatrox Irelia Akali OrnnSejuani Galio but also Taliyah Pyke and many others, KEEP TAKING ALL THE ATTENTION from riot.

I'm really happy that you made lissandra more fun to play while keeping her power the same Hey Riot Do you realise that so many champions are waiting for a fun passive too? KogMaw Xerath RekSai Renekton

You know enchanters are waiting for an update to make them healthy and competitive? You remember that you promised that you would work on them once your shield nerfs would gut them? So what's up right now, where is this work?

You keep working on your recent garbage designs, when it's just pointless (at least the one you worked on at least 5 times like taliyah ryze azir or galio), they're just overloaded and generalists they literally do old champion's job but infinitly better

LOOK Kaisa is a better Vayne Galio is a better TwistedFate Ornn is a fucking aberration Aatrox is a better any drain tanking bruiser Camille is a better Vi And Neeko is lierally going to be the rework that Leblanc should have used

So yea, I'm going to wait an other 5 years , for KogMaw to get attention, or Lucian to have a Rioter asking himself "How can we make this champion less feast or famin to not be a balance problem"

I really like Swain Evelynn reworks though, whoever did them should feel good.

106 Comments

Emo Twink60 votes

Did you just say Galio is a better TF?

D357R0Y3R15 votes

Surprised?

I wonder why TF (champion that used to be picked in pro regardless of the meta) hasn't showed in pro ever since Galio has been released.

I mean why pick a roaming champion who has for weakness to be absolutely vulnerable to all-ins and ganks when you have the same champion, but tanky with a dash and better waveclear

ChaosThief17 votes

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Surprised?

I wonder why TF (champion that used to be picked in pro regardless of the meta) hasn't showed in pro ever since Galio has been released

You do realize that TF is a mage, and galio is a tank/mage hybrid, right? Their kits are almost completely different.

If that's not the case, then what makes galio a "better TF"? I'm honestly confused here.

Ralanr14 votes

I think he’s saying Gallo’s global and CC presence is better than TF’s (which both are picked for).

D357R0Y3R6 votes

NOT ONLY THAT TF weakness is being shit in lane, he can lose lane to almost anyone

but here comes galio, doing tf's thing while having insane wave clear, being safe with a dash and insane 1v1 potential

Tr4shB4NSYST3M5 votes

Galio loses like 70% of midlane matchups LOL. I think you are discounting how tough midlane lane phase can be for most melee champs, much less someone without an ult that's useful in the 1v1.

Edit: Also TF rank 1 ult has much better range than galio R1 ult, and TF's CC is far more reliable (point/click)

AS I LAY FEEDING1 votes

As a guy who have played a lot of Galio, iam 100% that galio has easy time mid lol

RightClick McGee3 votes

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I mean why pick a roaming champion who has for weakness to be absolutely vulnerable to all-ins and ganks when you have the same champion, but tanky with a dash and better waveclear

Kinda Facts

GayFluffyUnicorn5 votes

Better clear, better CC, dmg isn't so much different.

Only difference is ult one gives vision the other AOE knock up and dmg reduc :thinking:

Summonah123693 votes

[{quoted}](name=Paddle Star,realm=OCE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=trNsylrZ,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-11-28T14:17:33.968+0000)

Did you just say Galio is a better TF?

Their ults are the same.

BestPudgeNA7 votes

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Their ults are the same.

They both have Global ulti's but they're far from the same.

TF gives vision and can port anywhere, Galio gives a shield/knockup and needs to go to a teammate.

They don't even have similar styles, Galio is a teamfighting champ and TF is more a champ that looks for picks and Skirmishes.

If you wanna compare TF to another champ it should be Pantheon If you wanna compare Galio to a champ it should be Shen

Escheton5 votes

They join a fight from a great distance, cc, and do a bunch of magic damage. That is the takeaway here.

For this, Galio lacks the weaknesses that TF has. But otherwise functions as such.

3TWarrior1 votes

tanky, supports at the same time as doing damage, damage doesn't fall off late-game, has multiple sources of crowd control, is not item reliant but does better with them so he's in the middle for that category, does not fall on his face against yasuo

well, i've run out of reasons now XD

PhantomGG2 votes

[{quoted}](name=Paddle Star,realm=OCE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=trNsylrZ,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-11-28T14:17:33.968+0000)

Did you just say Galio is a better TF?

I felt all credibility this man has died after that point

Linna Excel10 votes

I think riot needs to retool the team that handles the vision for the game. This isn't a balance team problem, this is a problem with the people who tell the balance team and the champ pods what they should be aiming for. League has a vision problem.

D357R0Y3R10 votes

oh yea my bad Forgot how both j4 and vi aren't played anymore now that camille dominates competitive since 8 months straight

chipndip12 votes

...J4 isn't played?

Maybe not recently but he saw play in season 8.

D357R0Y3R7 votes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnitX7i6O2E

Picked when camille is banned

Yikes

chipndip14 votes

That's one example, and why should Jarvan be top tier in pro play for you to be satisfied? You'd just complain about Jarvan instead of Cam.

Death by Glamour6 votes

confused with the galio/tf comparison. I would have went with him being a better shen personally

You know enchanters are waiting for an update to make them healthy and competitive?

yeh I think karmas rework has kinda stalled

3TWarrior2 votes

shen basically has no offense unless the person falls into a very complicated combo or rushes up to him.

i kick routers6 votes

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D357R0Y3R1 votes

I don't know, maybe one time aatrox will stop being red kayn with better burst

i kick routers1 votes

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D357R0Y3R1 votes

worse tank killer than red kayn

i wasn't talking about this I was talking about how red kayn should be THE draintanking champion, but then you have aatrox also draintanking, but able to kill squishies in a small fraction of time which makes him broken

draintanking means the champ shouldn't burst, if you can drain a tank (wether you're good at killing him or not doesn't matter, once you can draintank it means you can duel a tank), and burst at the same time it's absolutely a fucking joke

also, the fact that aatrox a juggernaut is bad at killing tanks? don't make me fucking laugh

your statement that aatrox outclasses all drain tank-type fighters

watch who's played right now -->aatrox

oh right

i kick routers1 votes

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Apocalypsic2 votes

The dude you’re trying to argue with is clearly blind. Rhaast has so much more sustain than Aatrox it’s not even funny. Aatrox isn’t picked for sustain..

Rathar Dashing1 votes

It would have made sense if they said "Aatrox is a better Riven."

Wolfeur6 votes

Riot: works on something "WTF, Akali and Irelia are a problem, fix it ASAP!" Riot: "We've got plans for them, we're going to work on it." "WTF, they get too much attention, give some time to older champs!!!!!"

You just can't win…

DM For Rat Facts4 votes

Azir hasn't had attention in a long time, his R is bugged as hell.

LeftyRaydy2 votes

[{quoted}](name=Azir Is Not Good,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=trNsylrZ,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-11-28T14:19:36.910+0000)

Azir hasn't had attention in a long time, his R is bugged as hell.

Has his R ever not been bugged?

DM For Rat Facts2 votes

[zombie-nunu-bummed]

Ragnaveil3 votes

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Aatrox is a better any drain tanking bruiser

I take issue to that when DD exists for any bruiser to take. His "drain tank" comes at the cost of needing to be basically full AD, meaning he can get his shit kicked in via burst. Not to mention the increased accessibility to grievous wounds for mages and AD users can make his healing pretty dogshit.

Also, the 4 champs you listed that are waiting for "fun" passives? You know who's waiting for something like that and more? Mordekaiser

Woodakoodashooda2 votes

Still nothing about Wukong, huh? Guess we'll keep on trying to make a champion with shattered kneecaps function...somehow...in the meantime.

Leetri17 votes

Wukong sits at a a 51,3% in plat+, I'd hardly call that shattered kneecaps.

Ragnaveil8 votes

Probably another one of "those" people. You know, the ones that go on every gameplay thought and try to shove Wukong down Meddler's throat, which in turn will probably push any work towards him even farther back due to the excessive rudeness.

saltran9 votes

I mean I do think that Wukong kit should be changed, so I understand and agree with the claims for him to be reworked.

But buffs so he can one shot night and day again? No thanks.

Saezio1 votes

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Wukong sits at a a 51,3% in plat+, I'd hardly call that shattered kneecaps.

When you quote winrates take the time to quote the pickrate as well. If its like 1,5% that 51,3% is hella low.

Leetri1 votes

Where'd you find that? He's sitting at 3,8% on Leagueofgraphs and plat+, which is about average.

Naalith2 votes

Neeko is nothing like LeBlanc, she lacks hypermobility and the only thematic similarity is that she's tricky. She plays more like pre-update Zyra with tricks instead of plants.

Infernape2 votes

The whole point is that she's a better deceiver than the champ literally called the Deceiver.

LiL Bunnie FuFuu1 votes

But their playstyles are completely different so I have no idea what your point is.

D357R0Y3R1 votes

yea no fucking shit their playstyle is completly different, considering that neeko's playstyle SHOULD HAVE BEEN THE PLAYSTYLE OF A REWORKED LEBLANC, completly stealing her thematic, and leblanc's kit will now remain cancer for a longer time

Frostfel2 votes

If LeBlanc can be considered broken in need of nerfs (which she is, as are many assassins) then she is fine. She may not have Neekos clone ability,but LeBlanc doesn't need it. She can still out play/be tricky and 1 shot people.

LiL Bunnie FuFuu1 votes

She may not have Neekos clone ability,but LeBlanc doesn't need it.

Pretty much. LeBlanc's clone isn't even the most broken part of her kit. It's the insane burst, lack of punishment (for 'risky' plays), and the chain which are. Also it's not reasonable to say Neeko is better at 'deceiving' than LeBlanc when Neeko isn't even on live servers yet (as has been said above)

LiL Bunnie FuFuu1 votes

LeBlanc was fine before the (somewhat) recent revert so your point is you wanted Neeko to be LeBlanc and you're mad at Riot about it for some reason...?

chipndip11 votes

Most champs are. This isn't really an issue worth having.

I PT I2 votes

I really wish they didn't change Taliyah so fucking much honestly...

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