214 Comments

FireDrizzle65 votes

inb4 this thread is -10 from ahri mains.

PB4UAME14 votes

Your comment alone got -12 in 3 hours, that's damn impressive levels of salt, lmfao.

DrCyanide9 votes

There are 31 downvotes on this thread. Therefore, it's likely to conclude 30 Ahri Mains and 1 Yasuo Main saw it. The Yasuo Main downvoted because the longer Ahri says OP the less Yasuo gets complained about and banned.

Saianna5 votes

I'd say yasuo downvote came from yasuo mains being too stupid to read but what do i know ;P

Noob2x34 votes

Ahri main here, and yes i agree ahri is a bit overpowered at the moment, she really didn't need that last buff.

and most ahri mains don't bother crying about her being weak because they're too busy crying about her W not being 100% what they want it to be

Noor Sakata1 votes

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Chembaron Yamada2 votes

And this matters because...?

Noor Sakata1 votes

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Chembaron Yamada4 votes

By being able to analyse data and evaluate it objectively. Ahris data implies that she is too strong currently and he agrees with that, that he added that he mains Ahri is mostly relevant to tell you "I am not biased against her, I actually play her heavily myself".

The fact that he can admit as an Ahri player that she is too strong right now even if he doesn't have much success right now with her is respectable in my eyes.

GodlyBane30 votes

"YASUO IS SO BUSTED OMG"

ISLAMICWARRIOR9929 votes

Nah ahri and garen are weak and nerf are unjustified - respective champ subreddits

LTK KoRo6 votes

it's funny how all the champion subreddits work in the same way, i don't know if i have ever seen one of these without any whining for buffs. Literally every champion is weak and bullied by the others lol

LeBlanc Rose3 votes

Talonmains - Rito, this nerf is awful. We aren't weak enough!

lolipopevelynn28 votes

ahri mains are going to downvote u to hell for insulting their waifu. whenever ahri is strong she is cancerous

NineTailedMystic8 votes

Implying Ahri haters don't downvote anyone who plays Ahri even if they have a well reasoned post.

TempName5484613 votes

its hard to take people serious that think their champion should be sitting at 56% win ratio at all times, also the amount of ahri defending that wen't down when she was at 60% (70% in dia+) gives yall kind of a bad rep.

Naymliss4 votes

Ah yes I too like dismissing and stereotyping entire groups of people because of a champion they enjoy playing.

Noor Sakata25 votes

Which site are you using ? She already got indirect nerfs this patch , she and LB are the most affected ones from the nerfs since They both use Domination and Sorcery at the same time and both got nerfed , her winrate should drop soon , it's not even a day since the patch lol

besides , again , why did you choose Ahri to complain about ? she isn't that OP or something , and there is a champion with almost the same stats as her , why didn't you complain about him ? Fizz 54.5% winrate , the same exact as Ahri , 10.3% pickrate with 36% Ban rate , maybe a less pickrate but his Banrate is 6 times higher.

NineTailedMystic12 votes

He just has a vendetta against Ahri.

SpyKayle4 votes

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He just has a vendetta against Ahri.

How? From what I can see this is just one post. If it was more than one, which I might have missed, I'd see what you mean but this is just one post.

NineTailedMystic10 votes

He's made 4 over 17 days. Not really spamming but enough to make me look at the poster to see if he's the one who posted another thread.

dunder kill9 votes

http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=NineTailedMystic

Think you just have a vendetta pro-Ahri

NineTailedMystic7 votes

You're not wrong. I don't particularly care about the the E buffs, my main problem here is the thread's OP making 4 threads over 17 days about Ahri. Now that I look at his full post history, he's not hating on just Ahri though, so I guess it's better than I thought.

D357R0Y3R3 votes

So what if I write a new thread because i'm pissed off about riot's balance decisions, and Ahri mains thinkingthat Ahri is worse now that runes got nerfed?

lmao

NineTailedMystic4 votes

I don't see how the second part of that sentence was relevant to my comment.

Eedat5 votes

she and LB are the most affected ones from the nerfs

I mean sure. If you just ignore MonkeyKingQuinn Zoe Fizz Talon } plus anyone else who uses duskblade. You have to be kidding me if you think Ahri is actually the most affected this patch

P.S. please use 8.16 data and not 8.15

https://lolalytics.com/ranked/worldwide/current/platinum/plus/home/

Fizz 54.5% winrate , the same exact as Ahri , 10.3% pickrate with 36% Ban rate

No, he doesnt lol.

https://lolalytics.com/ranked/worldwide/current/platinum/plus/champion/Fizz/

Marothennan18 votes

there are still some ahri mains that think she's weak

Kitsunes Lust13 votes

while yes, spoiler alert, i am a ahri main (as clearly shown by the icon, and the user name (magi=magic kyubi=9 tailed fox), and no i didnt downvote you, because you're just expressing your honest opinion, she is in fact quite strong, but she has very clear and predictable spell casts, since her Q and E are straightlined skillshots, and she's very reliant even more on her charm, and her R. Her charm, E, also hits the first enemy hit, so winions are a bitch and a half for her.

And her only source of saftey, with the removal of Q bonus MS and now converted into the passive(which is only a 20% MS bonus for 3 seconds), for a micro Phase Rush, is her R, and if her R is down, unless she lands a perfect charm, she's very open to being harassed if she doesnt 1) have R up 2) doesn't have her passive active.

so my tip(s) for fighting ahri, is

    • find someone who can out damage/harass her, or assassins. i struggle so fucking hard when it comes to champs like brand, lux, yasuo, zed, talon, fizz etc. if you have someone who can outmobilize her like yasuo (bonus, yasuo can block all of her spells, and her E has a delayed launch time, so it can be predictable), or maybe irelia even, even leblanc too, or even dodge her spells like fizz playful/trickster etc.
    • you can use the minions to block her charm (another tip, her Q is slightly longer than a minion wave lined up, while E is slightly shorter.) and if she misses her charm, punish..the...fuck...out...of...it....with her new charm, if she lands it, she gains 20% bonus magic damage in her spells. so if she misses it, shes an awkward sitting duck. And thats another thing.
    • let her outplay herself. she has quite low cooldowns (Q=7 W=9/8/7/6/5 E=12), but her mana costs are quite up there as well (Base mana: 418-843 Q:65-85 mana W: 40 Mana E: 70 Mana EQW lvl 3 combo=165 mana or, 36% of her total base mana at lvl 3.) And from playing other ahris, a inexperienced ahri will spam a lot of spells constantly. so if they keep on spamming Q, they would be oom by 6 Qs. And heres the major downside to her style of her kit
    • her Q E and R are all straight lined skillshots, R being the fastest, but used mostly for repositioning, E being slightly fast, but has a very short charge up time (i think 0.4 seconds?) and Q being somewhat slow. so shes not only very predictable, but also very easy to dodge if youre smart enough

So to recap:

Passive:

  1. it's a mini phase rush. gives her 20% MS for 3 seconds
  2. this only activates if she hits 2 abilities on a champion. good for poke

Q:

  1. her main power.
  2. can reach a full wave but has hard time clearing it until rank 4-5
  3. its a semi-slow straight skillshot that deals true damage on its way back, so the easiest way to dodge it is 1) know its distance 2) step to the side
  4. Watch an ahris patterns. if she likes to spam the shit out of it, she will waste mana early game VERY fast, especially in her Q. left click on her to see how much mana she has. if she has above 155 mana, she has enough for a nasty EQ combo, so wait till shes down to less than 130. that way, she wont be able to connect her Q if she lands a E. Punish heavy mana use
  5. every enemy she hits, she gains a stack, max 3 stacks per Q. at 9 stacks, she can heal herself for 3 / 5 / 9 / 18 (+ 9% AP) for every enemy hit
  6. does not reveal enemies in bushes, but will still add stacks if it does hit them. good for face checking

W:

  1. still useless rito plz*[sg-ahri-1]*
  2. its basically still RNG. the weakest of her kit.
  3. the fox fires will prioritized whoever ahri Auto attacked, elsewise, it randomly goes to 3 nearby enemies

E:

  1. one of her most important non-ultimate spells in her kit. miss this, you're dead
  2. charm increases in duration by rank, 1.4 / 1.55 / 1.7 / 1.85 / 2 (i personally like to max this second)
  3. charms the first enemy hit
  4. Does not reveal target, but will still cause sound effects if it does land. good for safe face checking
  5. if she hits it, her W and Q and R can deal an additonal 20% magic damage
  6. prob one of the best teamfight starters, so avoid it as best as you can
  7. did i mentioned she hates to charm minions? eew gross*[sg-ahri-3]*

R:

  1. unlike old ahri, new ahri is now extremy dependant on her R for mobility
  2. consists of 3 flash range dashes, can use in a duration of 10 seconds, with a 1 second gap inbetween
  3. the best way to counter this is to watch her movements and to "dance with her" around minions. remember her combo is usually R E (ahri....aR..E...get it....sigh), so if you dance with her fast enough, and she misses her charm, her R2 and R3 will be awkward or sloppy, and Q wont be as crazy powerful. her R is very straightlined, but fast. shes not unstoppable, shes not invisible
  4. mostly used for repositioning.

this is as most as i can think of. she's pretty squishy, and shes unsafe without her passive or ultimate, and you gotta land that dang charm, but it hits the first enemy hit, so use your minions to your biddings. thats...honestly all i can think of tbh. theres prob more, but oh well. im only 167K Mastery points on her, so im not all that great, but these are just some ideas on how to fight her. ya gotta revolve around when she's least safe (without E R or mana) Hope this helps you a bit on how to fight the seduction of a gumiho~

[sg-ahri-2] [sg-kiko]

TempName548465 votes

miss this, you're dead

omegafuckinglul

Kitsunes Lust4 votes

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omegafuckinglul

XD eh in a sense its true. without her E she kinda opens herself up without use of R, and it decreases her damage output as well...shrugs i aint meanin no hatin, just trying to at least give some form of ways to deal wit her is all :/

Serika Zero7 votes

someone posted a week or a few weeks ago, a video of an Ahri killing a full Hp Sona after missing every skill shot and dealing damage with only R W auto attacks, electrocute and ignite.

and it had lots of upvotes. And I assume, that's how most people on boards assume Ahri works. Side note: Ahri had like double the gold of that Sona, that Sona had no mana, that Sona was lv10 vs a lv14 Ahri. So, yeh..... "overpowered" That was around the time all these "Ahri is OP threads came up"

XxDRAGONsAK47xX3 votes

Its funny.

Because Ahri mains is full of people that complain about their champion being too weak.

Bisaknosp8 votes

only saw ahri haters complain about ahri mains tbh

Stone7662 votes

You can 1 shot someone and miss all of ur skillshots but ahri mains ofc dont see that as a problem.

wildfox995 votes

link of the clip?

Stone7661 votes

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link of the clip?

https://streamable.com/5prl8

Listen I understand your defending Ahri because she's your "waifu" and you must defend her whatever. I understand that because I feel the same with my main Evelynn, but I don't cry for undeserved buffs because I can come to terms that Eve is in a pretty good spot right now. Unlike Ahri mains who arent happy with they're AUTO TARGETING W and 55% WR.

Ahri didnt deserve a buff and needs to be nerfed ^^

Ahris10 votes

{quoted}

https://streamable.com/5prl8

Listen I understand your defending Ahri because she's your "waifu" and you must defend her whatever. I understand that because I feel the same with my main Evelynn, but I don't cry for undeserved buffs because I can come to terms that Eve is in a pretty good spot right now. Unlike Ahri mains who arent happy with they're AUTO TARGETING W and 55% WR.

Ahri didnt deserve a buff and needs to be nerfed ^^

Feeding sona, i woulda been surprised if Sona didnt die with W r r r + electrocrute and ignite as a fed Ahri.

Most Mages wouldve easily killed sona with more than 50% of their ability, one being ultimate. ~~~~

Neptunia xoxo8 votes

{quoted}

https://streamable.com/5prl8

Listen I understand your defending Ahri because she's your "waifu" and you must defend her whatever. I understand that because I feel the same with my main Evelynn, but I don't cry for undeserved buffs because I can come to terms that Eve is in a pretty good spot right now. Unlike Ahri mains who arent happy with they're AUTO TARGETING W and 55% WR.

Ahri didnt deserve a buff and needs to be nerfed ^^

Ahri 4 levels higher vs a support who probably has no MR built at all. Nearly every champion can do the same thing while being that far ahead vs someone as squishy as Sona with no resistances. I'm mainly saying this because this clip was a horrible choice for trying to make a point lol

wildfox994 votes

https://streamable.com/5prl8

how delusional people can be?

i remember this clip,if you looked that the OP match history when he posted it this ahri was 4 levels ahead,had 15+ kills (and shitons of farm) at min 20,she had 4 complete items and she was about to complete her 5th,plus sona had literally 0 defense and she missplayed really hard (using ult + flash before would have saved her)

literally any ADC/APC/bruiser could have done that with less than 1/5 of the lead she had,even a tank or support could have oneshoted her when this fed

plus most of the damage came from an high lvl electrocute + ignite

Unlike Ahri mains who arent happy with they're AUTO TARGETING W and 55% WR.

first off the only ability that they buffed it's her E (and it wasn't even a damage buff) so if she missed it it's like her kit pre-buffs

second:

https://www.reddit.com/r/AhriMains/

find me a single post that says she's weak

also ahri mains are asking for a W rework since years exactly because it's "press W for more damage",nothing interesting and it have to stay hard gutted and underwhelming because of that

Ahri didnt deserve a buff and needs to be nerfed ^^

ahri deserved a buff,but not this buff

they just have to rework her W/passive so they can put here some of her power budget,else a binary champion that have all his powerbudget in one ability (in this case her E) will always be either too strong or too weak

Stone7661 votes

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how delusional people can be?

i remember this clip,if you looked that the OP match history when he posted it this ahri was 4 levels ahead,had 15+ kills (and shitons of farm) at min 20,she had 4 complete items and she was about to complete her 5th,plus sona had literally 0 defense and she missplayed really hard (using ult + flash before would have saved her)

literally any ADC/APC/bruiser could have done that with less than 1/5 of the lead she had,even a tank or support could have oneshoted her when this fed

plus most of the damage came from an high lvl electrocute + ignite

first off all the buffs were in her E so if she missed it it's like her kit pre-buffs

second:

https://www.reddit.com/r/AhriMains/

find me a single post that says she's weak

also ahri mains are asking for a W rework since years exactly because it's "press W for more damage",nothing interesting and it have to stay hard gutted and underwhelming because of that

ahri deserved a buff,but not this buff

they just have to rework her W/passive so they can put here some of her power budget,else a binary champion that have all his powerbudget in one ability (in this case her E) will always be either too strong or too weak

  • Tell me why a 55% wr 13% pr champion needs a buff. Tell me why Ahri with a 55% wr deserves a buff over Malphite (47%), Karma (45%), Corki (47%), Viktor (47%), Azir (45%), Brand (46%), Galio(47%) and so many more mids that I'll continue to list if u really want. According to Ahri mains 55% wr isn't enough whatsoever. Like this is why Ahri mains get so much shit, they put they're "waifu" in front of dozens of other champs that barely get played and need a buff more badly.

  • You literally just said that she deserved a buff implying that she was weak so I don't even have to go to that subreddit to find evidence of that. But hey just for you I went and found a post. https://www.reddit.com/r/AhriMains/comments/90039e/everything_that_feels_wrong_with_ahri_for_future/ The post itself bitches about Ahri not being strong enough. Because a 55% wr is too little xdddd right???

  • Her W is OP!! It doesn't need a rework! You claim that it needs to be reworked because its too bland but if anything it should be reworked because of how powerful it is!

  • Here's another clip that demonstrates her 1 shotting without hitting a thing. It's old and also shows that Ahri has always been able to do this. She needs no buff. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T28CJjvUquo While the Ahri was fed, so was the kogmaw and the anivia wasn't terribly behind ^^ The enemy team also had a a 20k gold lead. So there was no reason this ahri should have been able to do this... unless she was broken.

You claim I'm delusional yet you try to defend that a champ with a 55%wr needs more buffs. You are ignorant and blinded by ahri rule34 to actually see this rationally.

wildfox993 votes

Tell me why a 55% wr 13% pr champion needs a buff. Tell me why Ahri with a 55% wr deserves a buff over Malphite (47%), Karma (45%), Corki (47%), Viktor (47%), Azir (45%), Brand (46%), Galio(47%) and so many more mids that I'll continue to list if u really want. According to Ahri mains 55% wr isn't enough whatsoever.

people should really stop pretending they are game designers (which actually takes a master in a university) just by reading the champions win rates

win rates doesn't make a champion balanced,there are hundreds of other factors (meta,learning curve,playstyle and so on) and since they aim to make every champion equally stronger if used at their best ofc champion harder to use or that aren't good if your team isn't good will have a low win rate,also ahri is nowhere near having a stable 55% win rate,it's just the number that an unreliant site is spraying on some games right after the patch got released

Like this is why Ahri mains get so much shit, they put they're "waifu" in front of dozens of other champs that barely get played and need a buff more badly.

also i used to main viktor before ahri and i still play him and i can say he's perfectly fine,he just gets hard countered by early game assassins

You literally just said that she deserved a buff implying that she was weak so I don't even have to go to that subreddit to find evidence of that. But hey just for you I went and found a post. https://www.reddit.com/r/AhriMains/comments/90039e/everything_that_feels_wrong_with_ahri_for_future/ The post itself bitches about Ahri not being strong enough. Because a 55% wr is too little xdddd right???

i said she deserved a buff before her E buffs,when she had 48% win rate (since you love to talk about this shit),also this post it's from a month ago and if you would read it you'd notice that it's not saying she's weak but why her kit feels bad to play and it's so hard to balance (W being targeted and boring ability,all her outplay potential removed in excange of raw power,her kit being extremly binary,her lack of identity and so on) he said "everything it's wrong in her kit",not "everything it's weak",something wrong can be a bad desined ablility/mechanic or if the problems are just numbers the ablility being too weak or too strong,in fact he said that while her E is powercreeped as fuck her W is still useless and they should put her more power budget

Her W is OP!! It doesn't need a rework! You claim that it needs to be reworked because its too bland but if anything it should be reworked because of how powerful it is!

[zombie-brand-mindblown]

her W literally have the lowest base damage + scaling among all the mid laner and supports,140 + 30% AP,70% less damage for successive ones,OH MY GOD HOW OP

(le blanc Q deals 310 + 80% AP damage for example)

srsly dude?

if you really think her W is broken you lose all your credibility

Here's another clip that demonstrates her 1 shotting without hitting a thing.

look at the champions icons (or zhonya animation)...was it early S5? (currently we are almost in S9)

what do you want to demonstrate with that?

since then she got nerfed many times and anyway what she did here?

a full build ahri was able to kill a kog maw at 30% HP with only R + ult + ignite + last dragon? (it was like the elder dragon buff)

or a 35% HP anivia with last drake + W + 2 Q? (also if she would have sidestepped her last Q ahri would have died)

You claim I'm delusional yet you try to defend that a champ with a 55%wr needs more buffs. You are ignorant and blinded by ahri rule34 to actually see this rationally.

i get it,you are an hardstuck gold that want to blame everything but himself for losing his games,i usually hate this argument but get at least decent at this game before talking (let's say,reach low plat),you are a low gold that just started to play you don't know anything about this game

learn how to sidestep and play against a binary kit (there are many youtube viseos if you are interested in learning something instead of crying) or fking shut up because i won't let a fking delusional trash player say this just because he sucks at this game and he can't accept it

Stone7661 votes

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people should really stop pretending they are game designers (which actually takes a master in a university) just by reading the champions win rates

win rates doesn't make a champion balanced,there are hundreds of other factors (meta,learning curve,playstyle and so on) and since they aim to make every champion equally stronger if used at their best ofc champion harder to use or that aren't good if your team isn't good will have a low win rate,also ahri is nowhere near having a stable 55% win rate,it's just the number that an unreliant site is spraying on some games right after the patch got released

also i used to main viktor before ahri and i still play him and i can say he's perfectly fine,he just gets hard countered by early game assassins The post itself bitches about Ahri not being strong enough. Because a 55% wr is too little xdddd right???

i said she deserved a buff before her E buffs,when she had 48% win rate (since you love to talk about this shit),also this post it's from a month ago and if you would read it you'd notice that it's not saying she's weak but why her kit feels bad to play and it's so hard to balance (W being targeted and boring ability,all her outplay potential removed in excange of raw power,her kit being extremly binary,her lack of identity and so on) he said "everything it's wrong in her kit",not "everything it's weak",something wrong can be a bad desined ablility/mechanic or if the problems are just numbers the ablility being too weak or too strong,in fact he said that while her E is powercreeped as fuck her W is still useless and they should put her more power budget

[zombie-brand-mindblown]

her W literally have the lowest base damage + scaling among all the mid laner and supports,140 + 30% AP,70% less damage for successive ones,OH MY GOD HOW OP

(le blanc Q deals 310 + 80% AP damage for example)

srsly dude?

if you really think her W is broken you lose all your credibility

look at the champions icons (or zhonya animation)...was it early S5? (currently we are almost in S9)

what do you want to demonstrate with that?

since then she got nerfed many times and anyway what she did here?

a full build ahri was able to kill a kog maw at 30% HP with only R + ult + ignite + last dragon? (it was like the elder dragon buff)

or a 35% HP anivia with last drake + W + 2 Q? (also if she would have sidestepped her last Q ahri would have died)

i get it,you are an hardstuck gold that want to blame everything but himself for losing his games,i usually hate this argument but get at least decent at this game before talking (let's say,reach low plat),you are a low gold that just started to play you don't know anything about this game

learn how to sidestep and play against a binary kit (there are many youtube viseos if you are interested in learning something instead of crying) or fking shut up because i won't let a fking delusional trash player say this just because he sucks at this game and he can't accept it

I really don't want to carry this argument on because you are annoying at this point tbh and I don't care about a fictional fox enough to dedicate my day to it. but here i go.

  • Winrates are important actually. If a character has a high wr, they need a nerf, low wr they need a buff. I agree there are other factors but WR's are a very important one that can tell you alot. Also sorry, Ahri has a 54%wr not 55%. mb. also don't use OP.GG for your info, they only use games from korea. Sites like U.GG use info from all regions.

  • Re-read it. The reddit link is someone whining she doesnt feel good to play and is too weak. I don't care enough about this conversation to pull up direct quotes because frankly i dont even care about ahri as a champ. Also 28 days ago is pretty recent.

  • Her W is literally what allows you to miss everything and 1shot someone. W + R. I agree it could be a better ability, but it doesnt need to be.

  • My point with that clip is that Ahri has always been able to make stupid plays and miss everything that requires the least amount of skill. I'm aware that was an old clip.

Also tf u mean im hardstuck gold. I've been climbing pretty fast lately ngl lmao. I have a high wr on all my jg mains (Evelynn, Trundle, Elise) so I'm not really losing any games ^^ Also I would genuinely be happy in getting back to you when I inevitably hit plat... because I will. I'm already getting qued with plats on my alt so

I'd be able to appreciate you were d4 if you didn't main ahri. You can play her with only ur left eyebrow if you really felt like it and still do good. Like dude, just from your stats alone I can tell that you are ONLY good at Ahri. And it's because Ahri requires no skill imo. Ahri is the only champ you go positive with besides Ekko. You are prob gold just like me when forced to play a real champ ^^

Ranmiaku3 votes

{quoted}

I really don't want to carry this argument on because you are annoying at this point tbh and I don't care about a fictional fox enough to dedicate my day to it. but here i go.

  • Winrates are important actually. If a character has a high wr, they need a nerf, low wr they need a buff. I agree there are other factors but WR's are a very important one that can tell you alot. Also sorry, Ahri has a 54%wr not 55%. mb. also don't use OP.GG for your info, they only use games from korea. Sites like U.GG use info from all regions.

  • Re-read it. The reddit link is someone whining she doesnt feel good to play and is too weak. I don't care enough about this conversation to pull up direct quotes because frankly i dont even care about ahri as a champ. Also 28 days ago is pretty recent.

  • Her W is literally what allows you to miss everything and 1shot someone. W + R. I agree it could be a better ability, but it doesnt need to be.

  • My point with that clip is that Ahri has always been able to make stupid plays and miss everything that requires the least amount of skill. I'm aware that was an old clip.

Also tf u mean im hardstuck gold. I've been climbing pretty fast lately ngl lmao. I have a high wr on all my jg mains (Evelynn, Trundle, Elise) so I'm not really losing any games ^^ Also I would genuinely be happy in getting back to you when I inevitably hit plat... because I will. I'm already getting qued with plats on my alt so

I'd be able to appreciate you were d4 if you didn't main ahri. You can play her with only ur left eyebrow if you really felt like it and still do good. Like dude, just from your stats alone I can tell that you are ONLY good at Ahri. And it's because Ahri requires no skill imo. Ahri is the only champ you go positive with besides Ekko. You are prob gold just like me when forced to play a real champ ^^

you're actually saying ahri takes no skill, when her damage completely depends on landing the charm, which is a skill shot, unlike braindead eve lmao, its actually hilarious that somebody who plays eve and trundle is trying to say anything about not taking skill lmfao, dirty eve abusers... actually no skill or brain required for that champion, miss your skill shot for charm? oh not biggie just q spam afterwards for the point and click charm... from stealth hahaha

Stone7662 votes

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you're actually saying ahri takes no skill, when her damage completely depends on landing the charm, which is a skill shot, unlike braindead eve lmao, its actually hilarious that somebody who plays eve and trundle is trying to say anything about not taking skill lmfao, dirty eve abusers... actually no skill or brain required for that champion, miss your skill shot for charm? oh not biggie just q spam afterwards for the point and click charm... from stealth hahaha

You are completely wrong. Eve's Q is a skillshot yknow, in fact Evelynn is literally Ahri if she required skill. Because she is literally a harder ahri. Evelynn is much easier to counter as well, because a control ward has the ability to ruin the entire game for an eve. Like as long as you invade + ward the enemy evelynn early game she is done. This is why Eve is hard to play, you need to form a strat around avoiding this. Also if ur skillshot misses, chances are you will not get your charm. Evelynn is tricky to play.

Although I agree that Trundle involves no skill. He's just fun to mess around on :) And even then 99% of my ranked games are with Evelynn and noone else.

lolcommunity13 votes

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You are completely wrong. Eve's Q is a skillshot yknow, in fact Evelynn is literally Ahri if she required skill. Because she is literally a harder ahri. Evelynn is much easier to counter as well, because a control ward has the ability to ruin the entire game for an eve. Like as long as you invade + ward the enemy evelynn early game she is done. This is why Eve is hard to play, you need to form a strat around avoiding this. Also if ur skillshot misses, chances are you will not get your charm. Evelynn is tricky to play.

Although I agree that Trundle involves no skill. He's just fun to mess around on :) And even then 99% of my ranked games are with Evelynn and noone else.

Eve player says she takes more skill then Ahri.

Don't make me laugh.

Stone7661 votes

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Eve player says she takes more skill then Ahri.

Don't make me laugh.

Are... are you kidding me? Eve cannot 1 shot someone after missing all of her abilities like ahri.

Every tier list has Evelynn's skill level as "intermediate" and Ahri's skill level as "Easy". That's coming from the pros themselves. You are just ignorant.

lolcommunity13 votes

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Are... are you kidding me? Eve cannot 1 shot someone after missing all of her abilities like ahri.

Every tier list has Evelynn's skill level as "intermediate" and Ahri's skill level as "Easy". That's coming from the pros themselves. You are just ignorant.

LOL, So delusional.

Being permanently stealth-ed along being able to proc her W for free with her empowered point and click E Nuke which allows for follow up with Q and R. So much more skillful then Ahri's linear skill shot that you actually have to land in order to maximize her damage. So Eve's so called skill shots are really not skill-shots at all when you are going to be in the opponents face while they are charmed. Eve might as well be a point and click champion.

Oh, not to mention that Eve is allowed to have built in void staff passive with her W that does an enormous bonus base damage of 450 with 60% AP scaling. What's more is that she is allowed to do 4% (Plus 2.5% for every 100 AP) of your max health. That doesn't even include the runic, lich bane and electrocute procs.

Your precious Eve is sitting is only 1% behind Ahri in her Win rate except the difference being that she is sitting at a 31.9% ban rate to Ahri's 6.6%

wildfox992 votes

Eve cannot 1 shot someone after missing all of her abilities like ahri.

you can't miss your skills if they are all targeted [zombie-brand-clap]

her ult is undodgable without a perfectly timed flash,she can only miss her first Q but the successive casts are not skillshots

also ahri can't kill someone with just R W R R (at lvl 6 this combo deals about 340 pre-mitigation damage,about 25% of a champion HP at this lvl)

Stone7661 votes

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you can't miss your skills if they are all targeted [zombie-brand-clap]

her ult is undodgable without a perfectly timed flash,she can only miss her first Q but the successive casts are not skillshots

also ahri can't kill someone with just R W R R (at lvl 6 this combo deals about 340 pre-mitigation damage,about 25% of a champion HP at this lvl)

You can counterplay an Eve with a 75 gold item called a control ward. If you catch an eve off guard and expose her to CC she cannot do anything.

Ahri however has a no skill mach 10 charm that is barely avoidable.

wildfox992 votes

You can counterplay an Eve with a 75 gold item called a control ward. If you catch an eve off guard and expose her to CC she cannot do anything.

you can't literally pink ward everywhere (also if you know how to move you won't get spotted) and if you want to put it on this way ahri gets countered by the free trinked item 3361 since she can't be stealth

Ahri however has a no skill mach 10 charm that is barely avoidable.

classic salty silver/low gold mad because he's too bad for dodging a skillshot,her E is really easy to dodge if you know something called sidestep,its cast time and projectile speed are ther same as Thresh Q but with less range

also you are trying to defend a champion that can do the same as ahri does but without skillshots

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