Lets take a moment to appreciate Riot's great idea to remove any counter to invisibility

PiVoRx·Feb 16, 2017·11 votes·1,245 views

http://media0.giphy.com/media/gRxjhVNfFgqI0/giphy.gif Brilliant idea, just fucking brilliant.

19 Comments

ZezockaryFeb 16, 20174 votes

Actually, the goal was to remove counterplay from invisibility so that it was not "pay 75 gold to kill this champion."

PiVoRxFeb 16, 20173 votes

And leaving 0 ways to counter it is right cause..?

SlythionFeb 16, 20171 votes

Rengar's case actually has a decent amount of ways to counter, he's just overtuned with lethality right now. At least with rengar you can control where he dashes and even find out where he is based on the indicator, the other 3 are bullshit though lol

ZezockaryFeb 16, 20171 votes

There are not 0 ways to counter them. When they take damage they will flash showing where they are, and you can still hit them with non targeted skills.

Dark NephthysFeb 16, 20172 votes

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Actually, the goal was to remove counterplay from invisibility so that it was not "pay 75 gold to kill this champion."

And yet they don't do anything about the champions that their entire kit is based on sustain Aatrox DrMundo being countered by 800g item 3123 or by the most used AP item item 3165 .

MissingKayoFeb 16, 20173 votes

If you're going to QQ about Invisibility, at least get it right which champions have it.

KoggyStyleFeb 16, 20171 votes

Galio is the only real invisible champ.

PiVoRxFeb 16, 20171 votes

Aatrox ?

RevaliFeb 16, 20173 votes

shaco's and eve's are probably the fairest of the bunch since for starters

shaco's while long, has a decent cd even with cdr. he'll really only get the chance to use it once in a gank.

Eve's is still shown by pink wards and with the removal of the chicken buff, she actually wont know its pinked if you get deep ones on her.

the others I guess I can agree with.

PiVoRxFeb 16, 20175 votes

Shaco is one of the biggest abusers of invisibility right now, hes safety level in jungle is equal to LB on lane, he can do whatever he wants and you can do shit about it.

Unreformed ShacoFeb 16, 20172 votes

Shaco's safety in jungle...

Reliant on blue buff to clear effectively.
Very easily counterjungled early.
No sustain, relies on clearing properly. By this I mean if he isn't letting his box tank it as much as possible and isn't backstabbing, he will barely clear all camps first round.

You can ward to stop a Shaco gank. Ward above the river bush, or between red wall bush and chicken camp. Laziness is not an excuse. A giant puff of smoke is also a great indicator, I would love one when Lee Sin is about to ward jump over a wall into my tower and kick me out.

Best princess EUFeb 16, 20172 votes

rengar can stil be countered same for eve

SpoofghoulFeb 16, 20172 votes

well technically thats half the problem

counterplay got removed so invisibility could be a true strenght and said champions could be balanced accordingly so they wouldn't be overbearing

now here is the real problem

they buffed all of them anyway. . .

everyone know how dumb Vayne Rengar Khazix Shaco are now

Urgot x BDSMFeb 16, 20172 votes

Its also briliant how u did spend time to find a stupid gif, but didn't spend time to actuall read what control ward does and that it actualy reveals eve and rengar.

sobi999Feb 16, 20171 votes

shaco and khaz have have invisibility while rengar and eve have camouflage. Difference is that when invisible you cannot be seen whatsoever even if you activate it during combat and you will come out of invisibility if you use an ability or AA an enemy. On the other hand camouflaged enemies can be detected at a close proximity but otherwise remain hidden to wards etc except control ward that breaks any form of unseen. Teemo has invisibility in his passive but he breaks out of it when he uses an ability/AA/moves or when he is moved by enemy i.e. knock up or knock back etc.

Vayne also has invisibility. It's pretty balanced right now tbh but shaco is the one that is the most annoying since all the others have invisibility/camouflage in their ults except teemo and eve which cannot use it in battle unlike shaco.

Lastly the changes made on pbe to traps are to be honest good for teemo at large. It's just not fair that a free item that lasts a whole team fight can negate his ult completely. If anything the trap change should have been made for teemo only because all other champs are not effected by it as much as teemo is.