Why am I always forced to waste my ban on yasuo

Xavanic·Sep 25, 2017·4 votes·514 views

Riot refuses to address this champ....he snowballs too hard, too fast regardless of what happens in lane, why cant they gut him like they did azir until they have time to rework him? seems a little bias if you ask me

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SuperCosmicHoboSep 25, 20173 votes

Yasuo is a bad ban.

Dope SoloSep 25, 20173 votes

3 months ago...

http://nexus.leagueoflegends.com/2017/06/ask-riot-yasuo-gets-banned/

For reference of the facts.

Miror BSep 25, 20172 votes

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XavanicSep 25, 20172 votes

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Wait, people actually ban him? They do realize that he has like 30 or so counters all of which are far more annoying to deal with fed than he is (mordy and illaoi being two notables I've played into him recently, hard snowballing the game after destroying him in lane).

Sigh...thats not my point, ive made yas go 0/7 in lane, just to lose the game to a 34/9 yas, the problem is people are stupid enough to feed him and he just snowballs regardless after 25 min, illoai and morde (and essentially all juggarnauts) are trash, they have been nerfed way to much for them to be good outside of teams built around them, yas doesnt even need anyone assisting him, he just snowballs and blows up your carries

Miror BSep 25, 20172 votes

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XavanicSep 25, 20171 votes

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Problem stemming around the fact that the playerbase can't deal with him and not because he's really "overpowered" or anything. The fact he's rarely seen in challenger/master-tier outside of one-tricks kinda says something, as much like things like darius/annie there are certain characters meant to pick apart bad drafting/player skill.

Also, I laugh at your idea at mordy/illaoi being trash, as I gotta check but I'm pretty sure they actually have higher play and winrates in the higher tiers than him. They also don't need specific team comps built around them despite what you think, as unless your comp is focusing on not taking dragons and not teamfighting they do quite well with whoever you run around them.

Every time i see a juggarnaut, they are useless unless they get SUPER fed off a bad player, also morde has a 1% higher winrate but only 1/8th yasuos pick rate, illoai has roughly the same pick rate as morde at a 47% win rate, trust me, their not strong outside of one tricks (info from op.gg), yasuo is still a problem even in moderate elo, as they have done nothing to nerf him (outside of the duration on his q being reduced, which had a compensation buff with it aswell) and i dont wanna have to play malz or annie every time i see him just to lock him down

Celestial Lion12Sep 25, 20172 votes

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facemelter710Sep 25, 20171 votes

I ban kayne every game personally. His cooldiwns are way 2 short. He has a master yi ulti that lets him ignore all terrain on a basic ability. He has a zed ulti that heals him for 60% of his hp. He has an extra dash and if he wasn't annoying enough he is immune to slowing ( master yi ulti ). A fucking aoe knock up with a low as fuck cast time on an assassin champion? Wtf. He kills chickens in about 5 sec solo. Whilst my laners for every other jgler in the game need to help leshe a buff. He is fucking lvl 3 in half the time as any other jgler..... What are his down sides? None. What are his counters? A team with hard cc. Not 2vor 3 on your team. The whole 5 man squad. But wait. You all used your cc to kill the kayne? Well enemy mid laner and adc now get to fuck your but in his place. BALANCE!

XavanicSep 25, 20172 votes

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I ban kayne every game personally. His cooldiwns are way 2 short. He has a master yi ulti that lets him ignore all terrain on a basic ability. He has a zed ulti that heals him for 60% of his hp. He has an extra dash and if he wasn't annoying enough he is immune to slowing ( master yi ulti ). A fucking aoe knock up with a low as fuck cast time on an assassin champion? Wtf. He kills chickens in about 5 sec solo. Whilst my laners for every other jgler in the game need to help leshe a buff. He is fucking lvl 3 in half the time as any other jgler..... What are his down sides? None. What are his counters? A team with hard cc. Not 2vor 3 on your team. The whole 5 man squad. But wait. You all used your cc to kill the kayne? Well enemy mid laner and adc now get to fuck your but in his place. BALANCE!

kayns also new and kinda meh winrate atm, once the next season roles around he will prob see some nerfs, yasuo on the other hand has been a problem for nearly a year now, and forces people to waste their bans on him because he usually starts to dominate after 25 min and with the assistance of one aoe knockup blows your team to pieces, kayn really lacks a proper gap closer and is much easier to cc then yas, i will admit kayn is strong, but alot of new champs are, and they will usually see a tone down if their win rate is overwhelming Riot made a post about yasuo a while back and even stated he needs a rework due to his overloaded kit

Bionic JellyfishSep 25, 20173 votes

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I ban kayne every game personally. His cooldiwns are way 2 short. He has a master yi ulti that lets him ignore all terrain on a basic ability. He has a zed ulti that heals him for 60% of his hp. He has an extra dash and if he wasn't annoying enough he is immune to slowing ( master yi ulti ). A fucking aoe knock up with a low as fuck cast time on an assassin champion? Wtf. He kills chickens in about 5 sec solo. Whilst my laners for every other jgler in the game need to help leshe a buff. He is fucking lvl 3 in half the time as any other jgler..... What are his down sides? None. What are his counters? A team with hard cc. Not 2vor 3 on your team. The whole 5 man squad. But wait. You all used your cc to kill the kayne? Well enemy mid laner and adc now get to fuck your but in his place. BALANCE!

M5 Kayn player here. lets not just downvote, let me explain why this is incorrect in a respectful manner.

Master Yi's ultimate does make him immune to slowing, and so does kayn's e, but he needs to go into a wall and go SA for that to happen.
The 60% heal on ult you reference only happens when he ults a tank in darkin form, and that's darking form's job. to kill tanks.
The knock up is only on darkin form, and that is a bruiser not assassin
Kayn does not need a leash on a buff because he starts raptors and has good AOE, so easy level 2.
his counters depend on where he is being played (top or jungle) and what form he is in. If he is top, play teemo, quinn, or swain against him. They will poke him down then go for the kill while giving him minimal chance to stack his passive. If he is jungle, he does not really have a counterpick because jungle matchups are weird, but you ward his camps so you will know where he is and when.
In SA form, his counter is a tank or bruiser. He cannot assassinate them, because they have too much hp and resistances.
In darkin form, his counter is grevious wounds on your adc with an ardent censer support like sona or soraka. they provide damage and his ult will be much less effective. Hope this helps!

Armored YokaiSep 25, 20171 votes

End before Yasuo scales or hard CC him it's not difficult unless your teammates focus the tanks instead

XavanicSep 25, 20171 votes

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End before Yasuo scales or hard CC him it's not difficult unless your teammates focus the tanks instead

Thats what my teammates always do, and i rarely play champs with targeted cc so ccing him can be hard asf

Spicy RiceSep 25, 20171 votes

Just gonna point out, he doesn't snowball unless he gets alot of kills. He doesn't scale that hard (for a melee carry) if all he gets is farm

XavanicSep 25, 20171 votes

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Just gonna point out, he doesn't snowball unless he gets alot of kills. He doesn't scale that hard (for a melee carry) if all he gets is farm

Once again, my teammates (generally our adc, who thinks he can duel yasuo in melee range) keeps dying to yas which gives him his kills, so he snowballs regardless of what happens