The QoL buff that TALON deserves!

Wukong Airlines·Jan 6, 2017·22 votes·1,509 views

He should be able to use his Q (Noxian diplomacy) midair after he uses his E (Assassin's path). I think thematically wise it would look cool, and many times while jumping in the air you get easily countered

Edit: now that I think of it, why does Talon's E when jumping over a small wall apply the lowest distance? why doesnt it apply the longest distance "like yasuo's E does"? I think even for a small wall you should be able to choose where to land "directly after the terrain, after the terrain in a small distance, the whole distance"

19 Comments

JohnnyNeverSinsJan 6, 20177 votes

I would really like to be able to R and E and still be invisible... i dont see a reason why not, it would be so much easier for ganks and shit..(not that it isnt already easy though)

Wukong AirlinesJan 6, 20171 votes

No it's not easy, compared to many other champs talon's MS has been reduced, and he feels like a different champ , adding to that when spotted midair any champ got time to reach, for example, vayne can E you for a stun, etc.

and tbh it would be a huge buff to keep his stealth while jumping, but isnt that what assassins do in most games/shows/anime.. fight in air as well?

UltîmaJan 6, 20171 votes

So much this. He can't blink to a target anymore; at least let him be able to use his ultimate to roam.

PhantomGGJan 6, 20173 votes

Honestly Talon doesn't need a buff, in Diamond he has a super high win rate, low elo players just aren't able to pull him off.

Wukong AirlinesJan 6, 20174 votes

LOL. so youre one of those who just throw lines without any proof

Honestly, Urgot doesn't need a buff, in Diamon he has super high win rate. low elo players just aren't able to pull him off.

ShaydroxJan 6, 20172 votes

Honestly though, I think Talon isn't actually underpowered. It took me around 50 games to get used to his new playstyle but he's definitely viable. I'd be careful while buffing him, though this QoL change could hardly break him I think.

XevestosJan 6, 20172 votes

He isn't wrong, he realy is strong but dare u if u make a mistake.

But yh, giving him some options would be super nice.

Wukong AirlinesJan 6, 20171 votes

I have over 700k MP with talon, and yeah, he's garbage right now, you for sure can enjoy 1shotting any champ at lvl 3 (prebuying defensive items) but after lvl 10 you're pathetic, slow, hardly/cant reach the target and thats when bruisers/ mages can 1shot you while being tanky, and adcs crit you while getting their freelo shields from BT/support and heals.

Meowing MangoJan 6, 20172 votes

Simple but good. I like it.

TeCoolMageJan 6, 20172 votes

I already suggested this some time ago actually. It's very important for assassins to not lose options mid combo or else it risks making the player feel as if they're fighting the game and not the opposing player.

W should be usable mid Q or E Q should cancel E E shouldn't cancel R

Wukong AirlinesJan 6, 20171 votes

You see, Riot doesn't care about Talon, they giving us the argument of "weak lethality" thats why he's weak. assume they buffed lethality, wouldnt that buff any other AD champ that would use them? wouldnt that keep talon in the same spot compared to rengar/kha/zed for example? so i dont think any of those QoL logical fixes will ever be applied tbh.

TeCoolMageJan 7, 20171 votes

Rengar and Kha are OP and they're being nerfed in their own kits, and Zed is also weak.

While I think Talon needs QoL, Lethality buffs are needed a lot right now because all AD assassins are either weak because their items don't carry them far enough late game, or broken because their kit is inherently like that. Buffing Lethality, giving Talon QoL and nerfing Rengar + Kha is the best way to approach the problem but double buffing/nerfing a champion has never ended well so they're going for lethality buffs first.

Hexs FortuneJan 6, 20172 votes

Not being able to Q while leaping over a wall gives the victim more time to react, working as intended.

ThirteenJestersJan 6, 20172 votes

The main thing he needs is the ability to use E while in his ultimate. As of now Talon has absolutely no way to contribute to a fight past 20 minutes. The ADC is going to have life steal, the supports are going to have shields and peel, the tanks are going to stun you. You try to assassinate anyone and you are going to die unless you got incredibly fed early game.

He needs to be able to E while in his ult so he can pop the ult from offscreen and move in to the enemy backline unseen, kill the target, and gtfo with parkour before the enemy even knows he was there. Talon only has pure damage, no poke, cc, invulnerability frames, dash resets, nothing.

Ibn La AhadJan 6, 20172 votes

It was suggested before and people cried it would be too scary and op. I dont understand why are people scared of assassins being assassins , they just want talon to be visible all the time.