May i ask why AP kai'sa still got green light in rift and running with that damage

ValiantKiller··5 votes·3,012 views

Kaisa Like that stupid nerf to item 3124 made nothing and she just so toxic to deal with special late game and in lane.

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La Bello6 votes

see my big problem with AP Kai'Sa is usually that off-meta builds are supposed to have some sort of trade off.

If TristanaTristana goes AP she COMPLETELY forfeits her right click damage for much higher upfront burst and it enables this new assassination kinda playstyle.

If Tristana goes AD then literally only ONE ability scales off that (her E) causing her spell damage to fall off but in exchange her passive and Q become CRAZY efficient. see not only is there a tradeoff but there is also a change in playstyle. AP Tristana plays drastically different from AD and each has their own calling.

now we look at Kaisa Kai'sa and Literally her passive makes her AP just as good IF NOT OUTRIGHT BETTER at right-clicking than her AD AS. In addition to this crazy execute damage she is gonna be popping you with every other auto it also turns her W into a mini-nuke. What else is disgusting is that Ability power scales ALL OF HER DAMAGE not just a portion of it. Almost every form of damage has hybrid scaling on it and Its just crazy how no Rioter saw how AP Kai'sa had way more strengths than weaknesses and not enough trade off's.

its gross oversight that no one has adjusted her since with a complete overhaul to her ratio's and numbers to actually give each build path its strengths and weaknesses. If you want to make AP Kai'Sa anti tank thats fine but it shouldnt ALSO be bursting squishies with insanely high damage on Seeker. AP Kai'Sa plays almost exactly the same as AD Kai'Sa except she exploits her entire kit and not just a portion of it like most other champs with hybridization.

She shreds tanks about as hard as she burst squishies with her massive W damage. And the slat on the wound is her overshield is MASSIVE to boot.

ValiantKiller1 votes

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see my big problem with AP Kai'Sa is usually that off-meta builds are supposed to have some sort of trade off.

If TristanaTristana goes AP she COMPLETELY forfeits her right click damage for much higher upfront burst and it enables this new assassination kinda playstyle.

If Tristana goes AD then literally only ONE ability scales off that (her E) causing her spell damage to fall off but in exchange her passive and Q become CRAZY efficient. see not only is there a tradeoff but there is also a change in playstyle. AP Tristana plays drastically different from AD and each has their own calling.

now we look at Kaisa Kai'sa and Literally her passive makes her AP just as good IF NOT OUTRIGHT BETTER at right-clicking than her AD AS. In addition to this crazy execute damage she is gonna be popping you with every other auto it also turns her W into a mini-nuke. What else is disgusting is that Ability power scales ALL OF HER DAMAGE not just a portion of it. Almost every form of damage has hybrid scaling on it and Its just crazy how no Rioter saw how AP Kai'sa had way more strengths than weaknesses and not enough trade off's.

its gross oversight that no one has adjusted her since with a complete overhaul to her ratio's and numbers to actually give each build path its strengths and weaknesses. If you want to make AP Kai'Sa anti tank thats fine but it shouldnt ALSO be bursting squishies with insanely high damage on Seeker. AP Kai'Sa plays almost exactly the same as AD Kai'Sa except she exploits her entire kit and not just a portion of it like most other champs with hybridization.

She shreds tanks about as hard as she burst squishies with her massive W damage. And the slat on the wound is her overshield is MASSIVE to boot.

Dude people say one item like item 3147 powerspike the whole diver/assassin class yet yesterday i was chilling and playing Jinx against Kaisa we both had one items, she had rageblade and i had hurricane ofcourse during minion wave of both side she was able to burst me into few seconds after she stacked her rageblade and pressed Q all of sudden i found my hp went to 100-0 in few seconds while i tickles her from 100-80.

Duskblade maybe is a strong one item spike for assassin but hell rageblade make it impossible to trade with Kaisa plus it allow her to fucking 1v5 easily.

KlydeFrog1 votes

Bud you do 0 damage and you wonder why she killed you lol

ankoanko194 votes

Because if Riot nerfed her the entire boards would be spammed with''WHY ARE YOU NERFING THE ONLY GOOD ADCS?1111!!!1''

ValiantKiller1 votes

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Because if Riot nerfed her the entire boards would be spammed with''WHY ARE YOU NERFING THE ONLY GOOD ADCS?1111!!!1''

Dude i was playing Jinx yesterday and i had item 3085 and she had item 3124 she took half of my hp in Q around minions by herself. How the hell that burst is possible ? You know what is worst people cry about assassin powerspike after duskblade but atleast assassin wont' damn pentakill a whole team with duskblade alone..

Sairek Ceareste1 votes

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Because if Riot nerfed her the entire boards would be spammed with''WHY ARE YOU NERFING THE ONLY GOOD ADCS?1111!!!1''

She's not even an ADC at this point. She's more of an APC.

Not to be confused with the war vehicle named APC. Although she sure moves just as fast and machine guns everybody down like she was one.

ValiantKiller1 votes

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She's not even an ADC at this point. She's more of an APC.

Not to be confused with the war vehicle named APC. Although she sure moves just as fast and machine guns everybody down like she was one.

Then a ll of sudden a twice her HP shield.

Colton1471 votes

Kaisa lacks any CC.

ValiantKiller1 votes

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Kaisa lacks any CC.

Cute meme.

KlydeFrog1 votes

Umm kog varus tf out damage her with same build soooo whats your point

ValiantKiller1 votes

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Umm kog varus tf out damage her with same build soooo whats your point

They don't burst down a squishy in one Q, they not mobile like her, they doesn't have a busted shield that scale on AP.

KlydeFrog1 votes

Umm sure thing varus ults she dies in 2 hits. Kog same. Tf w q and she is dead as well so whats your point

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