With every patch, this game is getting worse and worse for off meta champions.

PiVoRx··5 votes·962 views

MasterYi XinZhao Warwick Udyr Shyvana Mordekaiser Aatrox Urgot Tryndamere Nasus (and more i miss). Like wtf is even their role in this game atm? There is 0 reason to pick any farm jungler over forever meta ones LeeSin Elise. I didnt see a single aatrox or urgot whole seasson in Diamond. Any comment riot what is the point of their existence?

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ZephyrDrake3 votes

farm junglers...are you saying that Nasus, trynd, aatrox and morde are junglers? sorry but what?

xylonix1 votes

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farm junglers...are you saying that Nasus, trynd, aatrox and morde are junglers? sorry but what?

I don't know about morde but nasus used to be a jungler, trynd works ok in the jungle, and aatrox's main lane is the jungle

ZephyrDrake1 votes

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I don't know about morde but nasus used to be a jungler, trynd works ok in the jungle, and aatrox's main lane is the jungle

aatrox isn't a jungler and wasn't designed to be one, the only reason he is even played there is because he will get eaten alive by anything that isn't a jungle monster (and even then you might as well just pick Janna as your jungler since she will be way more effective at it than he is) and trynd works way better as a top laner since what he wants to do is splitpush nonstop which he can't really do as a jungler unless he just doesn't care about dragons/barons. Nasus used to be a jungler for the same reason Aatrox is a jungler except he was also decent in certain matchups unlike Aatrox.

Marshbouy1 votes

Because farm junglers were so fun to play with and against.

I am Pacman1 votes

Aatrox and xin are stat checkers, we all know mord is broken (not op, broken), nasus is a top laner who happened to have some success in the jungle at one point, ww is getting a rework, shyv is has buffs incoming, urgot is another rework.

The only one I missed is udyr and he is unique to an extent. He might need buffs but tbh I don't know enough about how the preseason jungle affected him.

EDIT: missed yi but he just doesnt fit into the meta right now as cc is prevelant in most team comps and he gets shut down hard by it.

cyberchade1 votes

so sadly there sint a reason to take anyone over Lee or Elise they do ever thing and they dont scale off hard i hope roit takes way their late game power. Aatrox is just shit i am in silver and i naver see him

EcchiOtakuTM1 votes

Yi is Yi

Xin is a ball of stats.

WW has a relaunch.

WTF are you smoking for udyr, the current patch udyr, yea you need to share.

Shyvanna has a rework

Morde isn't really a jng

Aatrox and urgot were olaf'd why even include them?

Tryn and nasus aren't really jungles.

PiVoRx1 votes

Im not talking about morde, urgot and others in jungle, but as champions in general. And i used farm junglers as example cause they suck whole season and theres nothing in sight that will change it.

EcchiOtakuTM1 votes

Well the new jungle is setup to encourage early influence now, so yea farmers need counter jungling more than ever and most of them aren't good enough to do it healthy/swiftly.

Like you have to constantly take 1 or 2 camps from the enemy when possible due to respawn timers and exp+gold changes make losing a camp hurt much more.

And respawn timers make you feel bucket naked since it enforces ganking.

Uh I kinda rambled so I'll say something else, farm jungles who aren't good mobility-wise and have healthy clearing will most likely suffer since counter jungle is far more enforced for them to stay farming jungles.

I feel like I repeated the same tones or missed what I needed to say, but for now I don't feel all farm jungles suffered just immobile unhealthy first clear ones.

PiVoRx1 votes

Problem is not the jungle, farm junglers sucked before preseason, the issue is that those champions just suck, their kits are like 1/3 of any meta jungler kit. If Riot is so biased against farm junglers then turn them into gank machines, give Yi and Xin, Lee Sin base stats cause right not they act as noob trap.

EcchiOtakuTM1 votes

To be fair xin IS a gank machine.

But yea there's going to be some stranglers they gotta look to buff once things settle down.

Jaygo411 votes

EVERY single champion you listed has pretty awful design. I don't know what you expect. Additionally, 80% of these champs aren't junglers like wtf

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