Am I allowed to say nautilus is a bit powerful with CoC?

Marshbouy··20 votes·3,123 views

I mean holy hell, a shield for about 1.5k is insane.

68 Comments

oSEXYPLATYPUSo11 votes

you mean a tank mastery is strong on a tank?

oh no

ForgiveColour6 votes

You mean a tank mastery is broken on anyone that can use it efficiently? Oh no!

But teehee tank mains logic it cant be broken XDDD

Ralanr3 votes

The mastery is already being nerfed. Hopefully to be more useful on tanks.

TyrekGoldenspear8 votes

Nautilus Plods towards the enemy ADC while being pelted with fire, procs shield from W and from CoC.

I will not rest.

Xeruon5 votes

DRAMATIC GASP

HOW DARE YOU SAY A TANK IS OP?! WE MUST BURN YOU AT THE STEAK, HERETIC!!

/s

RainbowIcee4 votes

you will only find tanks op if they are fed, you are underfarmed or if you're playing by their rules.

Xeruon2 votes

My post was obvious sarcasm, I even put the little "/s" there.

Anyway, overwhelming majority of tanks are balanced right now. I find that bruisers are abusing CotC much more than tanks are right now.

TyrekGoldenspear3 votes

Can I have that steak when you're done burning the heretic?

I'm hungry. :)

TeCoolMage1 votes

No but you can have a item 3053 to help you take all that fire damage

Eedat3 votes

Yes, but be aware CoC is already getting nerfed.

Marshbouy1 votes

Yes, but people are quick to point out bruisers that are abusing it, but rarely tanks.

Ralanr3 votes

Zac has been brought up to abuse it. Granted it's designed for him, but holy fuck it is big.

Oglaf8 votes

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Zac has been brought up to abuse it. Granted it's designed for him, but holy fuck it is big.

If by "abuse" you mean "use it the way Riot intends" then yes, yes he has. Like any other CC-laden tank, like Sejuani.

Seriously, what's with this new "abuse" buzzword?

Ralanr3 votes

Because people like to bitch.

xWaters2 votes

So.. People like you?

Ralanr3 votes

So just because I bring up Zac suddenly I'm bitching? I'm just saying what I heard.

50000000000000002 votes

Don't champions with one hard CC on less than 30s CD and a lot of damage use CoC better than champions who has tons of CC? You can proc the shield only once in 30 seconds.

Someone like Riven or Hecarim, for example.

Dehitay11 votes

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Yes, but people are quick to point out bruisers that are abusing it, but rarely tanks.

Tanks are meant to be difficult to kill. Them getting a shield just enforces their style of gameplay. But when Riven is getting free shields for every 3rd Q and her W on top of how hard it is to kill her to start with, that's a whole different problem.

Marshbouy1 votes

I concede

Nathaniell11 votes

Lets just point out, that CoC shield can be easily stronger than Evelyns ultimate shields.. that sounds a bit fucking broken. Too bad she doesnt have CC as well.. would be "fun" with 3.5K hp shield.

Btw, how the fuck is this balanced.. so dmgers get like 100-200 bonus dmg (deathfire/thunderlord) and tanks get 1500 hp shield? wtf

Marshbouy2 votes

Btw, how the fuck is this balanced.. so dmgers get like 100-200 bonus dmg (deathfire/thunderlord) and tanks get 1500 hp shield? wtf

factor in the CD of the shield.

Nathaniell11 votes

Oh sorry.. so its just 400 dmg vs 1500+ hp shield. Big difference.

The Yetii Rider3 votes

{quoted}

Yes, but people are quick to point out bruisers that are abusing it, but rarely tanks.

Tanks aren't "abusing it" though. The mastery is for tanks. It's their only mastery.

Saying tanks are harder to kill all of a sudden isn't abuse. It's their job.

Ahristocats3 votes

what exactly a 1k5 hp shield is going to do?

is nautilus going to murder your entire team?

Marshbouy7 votes

he's going to aggro magnet the back line, peel constantly, deal damage with E spams, autos, immolate damage, knock up the back line, slow everyone down, and soak up insane amounts of damage.

xWaters3 votes

Great description of Nautilus's kit! He also deals damage with e and autos? Woooooow! He can even slow them down, and tank. It's almost as if, HES A TANK. Stop, stop, stop the complaining.

Marshbouy5 votes

Just stop. The idiocy hurts me. playfive Koopska stated

is nautilus going to murder your entire team?

to obviously imply that nautilus is useless since he deals low damage, so I answered him by given what you call a great description of nautilus's kit. I'm not complaining. I'm educating someone on what nautilus does and how him being wholly unkillable when even remotely ahead can cause a bit of an issue for your team.

Ahristocats2 votes

you don't understand that someone not being able to die and cc'ing isn't a problem, not like someone who can't die but can kill your entire team

because you also have a tank that can cc the enemy team

TeCoolMage1 votes

Gee so why not have a champion that can't die and can kill the entire enemy team on your side too, now they're not broken either.

Ariel the Cruel1 votes

All Aboard the DOTA 2 train. Last call for DOTA 2. All aboard!

TeCoolMage1 votes

faceless void vs anti mage late game 1v1v8 feels bad man

ACENOX1 votes

it's been patches since faceless void is no longer a carry

TeCoolMage1 votes

lol I don't keep track of that sort of stuff

GayFluffyUnicorn1 votes

So he does what he is supposed to do? Shocker.

Ariel the Cruel2 votes

Try in on Fiddlesticks. There's a decent amount of health in AP itemization to make it amusing.

Dominick Destine1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Ariel the Cruel,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=tYvvEi2X,comment-id=0010,timestamp=2016-11-26T04:17:15.718+0000)

YOU.

YOU ARE ARIEL THE CRUEL. I will never forget you. You taught me the worst lesson I have ever learned, to explain to people arguments beyond their level of understanding. Why is this necessary?! explain yourself, your teachings have not rendered any edible fruit (so to speak).

Try in on Fiddlesticks.

It would not be unreasonable if it wasn't in the Resolve tree.

Ariel the Cruel1 votes

YOU ARE ARIEL THE CRUEL.

Hello DD.

I will never forget you. You taught me the worst lesson I have ever learned, to explain to people arguments beyond their level of understanding. Why is this necessary?! explain yourself, your teachings have not rendered any edible fruit (so to speak).

I work for the 10% of forum goers that have brain cells left (This number may be overly generous). Of which 0.2% post regularly.

It would not be unreasonable if it wasn't in the Resolve tree.

The key word is "amusing." Not "great."

TyrekGoldenspear1 votes

[slayer-pantheon-popcorn]

Don't mind me, Ariel THE Cruel, just watching the master at work.

######Planning on doing any more patch note translations?

Ariel the Cruel1 votes

Don't mind me, Ariel THE Cruel, just watching the master at work.

Doing what exactly?

######Planning on doing any more patch note translations?

Absence makes the heart grow fonder. . . . Or was it mockery? I forget.

TyrekGoldenspear1 votes

Well according to DD, you defeated him in an argument, so I want to see another such historic moment.

It's absence, and I am really missing those patch note translations.

Ariel the Cruel1 votes

I don't know that "defeat" would be the correct term. Neither side stood to gain or loose in that discussion.

And DD can be swayed by logic, and reason just like any other respectable person. He just comes off as an ass.

Bârd2 votes

It ain't Naut.

Anyone with hard CC on a basic ability is good with this keystone.

Kingnewgameplus2 votes

Except he gets a big ass shield for a single auto.

Simple Moon2 votes

I think it actually fits him well. He lost a lot of his threat with the nerf on his e that the shield actually makes his trades decent again.

GayFluffyUnicorn1 votes

Exactly. People here seem to forget that after one month being viable in the toplane riot nerfed him so hard that his only viable position was support. Finally a mastery that helps him getting back into toplane and everyone cries. What a world would it be if cait, vayne, ez would be in the gutter.

FourVsFive1 votes

Some one explain what CoC is ? Cause all I get is Clash of Clans.

Icestar11864 votes

Courage of the Colossus. New mastery.

TeCoolMage3 votes

Corruption of champions

MunchCrunchLunch1 votes

what is the shield gonna do? kill your team?. no. tanks are not op unelss they have levels and items on you. no tank is. enough items. tanks melt.

PermabannedGaren5 votes

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what is the shield gonna do? kill your team?. no. tanks are not op unelss they have levels and items on you. no tank is. enough items. tanks melt.

A champion does not have to deal high damage to be overpowered. Only a complete moron would think otherwise.

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