Gangplank is a Pirate

The Ecdysiast··23 votes·1,879 views

Gangplank He should steal gold from enemies he kills, not just earn it. I'm not talking a lot, just maybe 20 or 30g. It'd be funny.

EDIT 4 Maybe he should also be able to throw oranges at allies, since his secondary role is support, but very slight cc and buff don't exactly allow him to stand in the same lane as Leona, Thresh, and Janna. For the sake of oranges, on allies we'd either go with:

  1. It doesn't heal.
  2. It doesn't cleanse. One effect or the other, or simply nerf the AP ratio of the healing by a lot. Quoting a comment: For his W, Make it cleanse if they're cc'd but no heal and heal if not cc'd.

I could see that being fair, no heal and cleanse at the same time. He's saying it heals if they're cc, but cleanses and doesn't heal if they are.

EDIT 3 Someone suggested there be a gold-stealing support champion in the game. I see a chance for Gangplank to finally be the support he was always meant to sometimes be. Give him a teeny tiny amount of gold steal. Not talking much, maybe 2 or 3 when he Q's an enemy champion. Nearest Ally gets 1g of it.

EDIT 6 While the original post was intended as a piratey joke, the edits are actually suggestions to make him a better support. That being said, I'm thinking that if they were to implement any of the support-y changes, the original idea for goldsteal would have to be cut out.

EDIT 7 Please don't let this die.

Side note, not main topic: Another idea, and this stems from someone mentioning, "MF should steal it back when killing GP." I'm thinking instead of taking any from him, she should get some extra when killing him, via whoever paid her to track down pirates.

40 Comments

Kouga9 votes

Riot has made some clear and strong decisions in regards to "stealing" or "denial" abilities. Gangplank, in fact, used to have it where his E, Raise Morale, shot one of your own minions and killed them instantly in exchange for the buff. However this lead to "Denial Gangplank" where he could take it very first thing, max level it with CDR and he'd deny you gold and EXP and hit 6 while you're at 4.

They've also never released a champion that permanently steals stats, although they have some that "drain" or "sap" stats temporarily such as Trundle. But something that permanently removes resources from another champion? I don't see it happening, even if it is only 1 gold. Somehow, LCS will find a way to exploit it.

Also: Butthurt much?

And I didn't notice who wrote the topic after my comment. If I had realized you wrote it I wouldn't have wasted the time giving a concise and reasonable explanation, I would have just downvoted it and moved on.

Cheers, mate, and may we never have to play with each other in the Rift.

Tis a nice day5 votes

50-60 gold might have a few complainers, but if they made it 1 gold stolen as a flavor buff, we'd all love it.

Deep Terror Nami3 votes

And you've reminded me that Miss Fortune MissFortune is a Bounty/Pirate Hunter; so, if she kills him is all the gold returned?

The Ecdysiast1 votes

No, he spent it on booze and gun upkeep. She SHOULD, however, get a little more gold from killing him. She wouldn't steal any from him or return what's been stolen, but she would get the payoff from whoever hired her. Flawless. XD

Zazusha3 votes

I like the idea of his oranges being something he can use on allies.

Maybe make it work like Alistar/Taric's healing. where it only heals like maybe 25-50% when used on allies.

The Ecdysiast1 votes

If you like it, upvote. I wanna see them actually do something to help GP.

Zazusha2 votes

DONT TELL ME WHAT TO DO!!!!

side note, actually stealing gold from an enemy sounds good, but idk if it can be balanced. Though i supposed a cooldown could be part of it. Like Naut Passive, Udyr stun, etc. Where parrrley can only steal gold from the same enemy once every 10 seconds.

Gotta remember he's a top laner too. and the champs he's good against already has to deal with his sustain and harassment. Stealing their gold might be too much.

He's not officially a jungle either, Rito didn't give him a recommended Build when starting with smite, But the stealing gold would be nice when crossing paths with the enemy jungle (only likely on counter ganks and when they invade you).

The Ecdysiast1 votes

That is a air point. I forgot to think about the cool down of Parrley. Even 15 seconds would be fair.

SpongebobIsLife1 votes

gp already has a rework in the works, although it probably wont hit till the end of the season.

Zazusha2 votes

oh Please, GP's rework is the Chicago Cubs at this point.

(Warning, Incoming Baseball analogy)

In that, Gp has fans who love him, He's not great, he gets a win here and there, His chance is coming, but riot keeps sayin "We'll get em next year"

Deep Terror Nami2 votes

New Meta: Jungle Gangplank that only ganks whichever enemy is fed the most.

The Ecdysiast1 votes

Well that would only help before they back and buy.

Deep Terror Nami1 votes

Only if that was their last item...

The Ecdysiast1 votes

Well I mean if they just got back, a little gold doesn't make a difference. They still just bought an item.

Deep Terror Nami1 votes

I understand. What I'm saying is that even if they just got an item, you will have delayed their next item instead. It will matter at that point, unless they are full build; in which case gold has no value.

The Ecdysiast1 votes

Well that sounds good too. Gangplank used to be a jungler. Now he just sits on his ship and plays with his balls.

Sorion2 votes

Honestly, I've wanted a pick pocket support for the longest time that could actually affect the enemy by stealing their gold with their skills and either keeping it or giving it to the nearest champion, whichever is more balanced. Nothing like 50 though. More like 5 scaling up to 25 or so.

Not saying it's Gangplank, but I think it's an idea Riot should look into.

The Ecdysiast1 votes

You have a very, very strong point. But it really SHOULD be on Gangplank, since his secondary role even states he's support, despite the fact he can't even give allies an orange.

BallisticMouse2 votes

For his W, Make it cleanse if they're cc'd but no heal and heal if not cc'd.

I could see that being fair, no heal and cleanse at the same time.

The Ecdysiast2 votes

I like you. Upvote the thread.

Remlap12231 votes

Yeah, leave it at one gold. Just a flavor buff. As for the oranges, that'd make him retardely OP, since Morgana already has whiners even though her sheild is only magic damage resistant and has to actually predetermine incoming CC. Giving Gangplank a targeted 100% AP scaling heal with CC removal, he'd be banned more than Kalista in LCS.

The Ecdysiast2 votes

Well we'd obviously nerf the heal, or make it outright not heal allies. OR Take away the cleanse and make it ONLY heal allies. And Morgana's a special case since when she's a support, it's not like they can break the shield since the enemy adc doesn't do magic damage.

It Hertz When IP1 votes

Teemo would like a word with you...

Remlap12231 votes

Well yeah, they just flat out ignore it unless you're playing KogMaw or MissFortune. Morgana's shield would be complete poop without the CC ignore.

As for Planky, I do enjoy playing him as a support, but I think there's something cooler that we can do with him besides nerfing the oranges just so he can heal allies.

The Ecdysiast1 votes

Others have said it'd be nice to implement the slight gold steal and give it to allies. May help?

Remlap12232 votes

I feel like that'd be cool. I feel like a gold generation aura passive would be pretty sweet to make up for his overloaded Q (they're most likely going to rework it into a skillshot a la Veigar) so gold stacking on that would be out of the question. When I play GP I use him as a Braum-esque tank support that relies on AAing the enemies to weaken them and body block hard CC then cleanse it away. Another idea would have him steal 10% of the shutdown and kill gold from a champion, it'd be enough to snowball GP enough, but not enough to completely cheese the game.

The Ecdysiast1 votes

I've wanted it to be a skillshot for some time. Problem being that, like Veigar, it's going to be a hell of a lot harder to harass with minions in the way. (Unless they'd also make it a pierce-one-enemy deal, but that'd be hard with a flintlock)

The Ecdysiast2 votes

And furthermore, while there are people who whine about Morgana's shield, keep in mind that she IS an AP champion. But Gangplank isn't. If you focus AP to make the heal strong, he'd lose his other effectiveness.

NoMonku1 votes

But he does get gold if he finishes them with Q :/

The Ecdysiast1 votes

Yeah, he gets gold. I'm saying since he's a pirate he should steal gold.

NoMonku1 votes

He used to be able to steal gold AND experience with his E. They removed that feature, so I'm sure he won't get it back.

The Ecdysiast1 votes

No one said anything about getting it back.

NoMonku1 votes

Yes, but this is also when he could "steal" gold from his opponent, indirectly at least. He got the gold and xp and also DENIED it from his opponent :).

Also, how come your edit numbers are all different?

Tin Tarantino1 votes

Stealing gold isn't really something that would work, maybe gaining bonus gold on Q based on the amount of unspent gold the enemy champion has could work, so that as an ADC you would want to back to get that BF sword asap in order to stop GP from snowballing off of you, rather than just for the power spike.

The Ecdysiast1 votes

But I'm not talking a tremendous amount of gold. 2 ever 15 seconds is almost negligible because of the map's passive income, or even 20 on kill is simply a short wait or minion kill away.

Supaka1 votes

"Edit 5 Please report and downvote the comment by Kouga, he only came because he's stalking my threads to ruin them."

I just waned to point out that Kouga has offered one of the only sensible comments in this thread. The OP's topic about stealing gold from other players seems really insignificant and ridiculous, Kouga has offered a legitimate reply. The fact you are rallying people from GD to not only downvote but REPORT Kouga for his comment makes you a piece of trash.

Typical trait of the low level players that feed then beg the enemy team in /all to report his teammates for being noobs.

I hope karma comes back to bite you in the ass in the long run.

Also, before you go saying something stupid like "This is obviously Kouga's alt", I have 117 champs, a number of legendary skins and have had this account since 2009.

Darth Pixy Misa1 votes

Instead of stealing their gold how about their kill value? What if GP could steal and reduce the kill value of allied and enemy minions in an area. the move could be called "better nail it down" and act like Yi's alpha srike.

The Ecdysiast1 votes

That wouldn't work. It'd be as game-breaking up as being allowed to kill your own minions was.

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