Just delete Stormrazor from the game already.

Nausicäa ·Sep 29, 2018·117 votes·19,049 views

Riot - "We think ADCs power spike too early with just 2 cheap items, lets have an ADC rework to fix this by introducing an item that lets them power spike with a SINGLE cheap item instead!"

GENIUS.

46 Comments

ViciousSummonerSep 29, 201834 votes

Crit builds are the golden child in the balance team's eyes. They won't ever properly balance it.

Dr PoroSep 29, 20185 votes

Crit builds were unplayable for a few patches and every adc kid and their mom complained. Can't blame Riot for keeping crit evergreen.

ThefrostyvikingSep 29, 20189 votes

There are plenty of ways to keep marksmen good without just flat out buffing burst and crit.......many of those of us who play marksmen asked for such stuff like resistance, health, movespeed, lifesteal or even range buffs but instead we get stormrazor....which doesnt even work for everyone <.<

charge attackSep 29, 20182 votes

Legit just make less fucking burst and suddenly ADCs are good again.

Stormrazor hurts ADCs as much as it helps them. Getting bursted even quicker isn't their ideal situation.

Like, why bother kiting or building DPS like BoRK when you're gonna die to Camille before you get 3 autos in anyways? Just build bursty and spew all your damage on the field before you get blown up.

Linna ExcelSep 29, 201819 votes

The worse think about Stormrazor is it seems to be a little more broken on some ADCs than others. As a support, the champs who can abuse the item the most are the least fun champs to lane against. It's like riot is trying to turn ADCs into burst assassins.

It just gives way too much. A bunch of AD? Check. AS? Check. Guaranteed crit and move speed? Check.

KaìjuSep 29, 20181 votes

As an Ashe player that item is cancer and we can't build anything but Bork first.

BastileanOct 1, 20181 votes

I just build BFSword, Hurricane and then IE... then 10% more crit... then 15% more crit... I am just silver but it goes well. I also really like Black Cleaver on Ashe with the hurricane. I never get around to Life Steal items... Crit is so much more valuable while storm razor and BorK hold you back a long time from these, also armor reduction and CDR are so expensive and valuable.

KaìjuOct 1, 20181 votes

The issue us against higher tier players that won't work because you get abused for having such a weak start. BF Hurricane is worse than it used to be because of the Deal nerfs so you end up way weaker. 2600 for 40 AD and what, 15% attack speed and crit, compared to 2600 or 2700 for Stormrazor, you just lose no contest.

BastileanOct 3, 20181 votes

Yeah, I hear you, but this game is about team fights, chosen battles and power curves. If you build a storm razor and I build an Infinity edge, I am going to punish you when I reach my weapon spike. A lot of times you don't even see it coming because you have been winning trades so hard. All of a sudden I am winning team fights and you just aren't as relevant because you wasted almost 3000 gold on a storm razor.

KaìjuOct 3, 20181 votes

That only works if they don't finish IE first because they killed you over and over because they had Stormrazor.

Pantheon falls off, he can still one shot your ADC late game.

BastileanOct 4, 20181 votes

Right, honestly I haven't had this issue. If they beat me with storm razor they probably would have beat me if I had one. Have you experienced this? Honestly, ADCs going ham is crazy in this meta.

KaìjuOct 6, 20181 votes

Compare Draven with Stormrazor to Draven with BF and Zeal.

Press Q WinSep 29, 201815 votes

item 3095 was made for Jhin and i despise this champion...

FlashesSep 29, 201812 votes

This is the bandaid of the Crit rework. It's meant to give an alternative crit playstyle, but it's just abused by kiting ADCs with disgusting on-hit damage to give AD, AS, and Movement speed, like Lucian, Kaisa, and Jhin.

Champions that got their kneecaps taken out during the crit nerf don't get much benefit out of this other than "it's a statstick and building anything else is basically throwing the game"

Plus assassins abuse it, and I find it hilarious that Riot hasn't made Stormrazor ranged only yet.

MarothennanSep 29, 20186 votes

Lucian doesn't build it

IDEMO NA MUDASep 29, 20187 votes

item 3153 item 3071 item 3006 item 3036 item 3046 item 3026

I really think even this is too much damage that deletes even biggest tanks in the game, please don't make him take stormrazor too.

ThefrostyvikingSep 29, 20183 votes

Pretty sure he was exclusively buffed because of that instead.

Unlike Ashe, and now only recently has kog gotten a tap but i honestly feel like it wont be enough x)

A Bad VarusSep 29, 20187 votes

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DarkTree1Sep 29, 20184 votes

[{quoted}](name=Chain Me Thresh,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=tUZo4908,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2018-09-29T02:47:55.587+0000)

Just revert every AD item tbh. Not just the ones from this season, I want 100 AD Bloodthirster back, too.

please no more damage, have mercy

ÆtheistSep 29, 201813 votes

[{quoted}](name=Chain Me Thresh,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=tUZo4908,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2018-09-29T02:47:55.587+0000)

Just revert every AD item tbh. Not just the ones from this season, I want 100 AD Bloodthirster back, too.

I mean, if you want to play against Graves item 1400 item 3072 ...

DarkTree1Sep 29, 20187 votes

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I mean, if you want to play against ...

you're missing 2 bloodthirsters

ÆtheistSep 29, 20189 votes

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you're missing 2 bloodthirsters

I'm assuming he's still a jungler and wants boots.

DarkTree1Sep 29, 201818 votes

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I'm assuming he's still a jungler and wants boots.

those are for cowards

Beatrice fallsSep 29, 20185 votes

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I mean, if you want to play against ...

I remember doing this on old Zed and having 800 AD

Warlord RhinarkSep 29, 20186 votes

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I mean, if you want to play against ...

Can't be worse than Graves item 1400 item 3095 item 3046 item 3812 item 3147 item 3142

Mythmaster28Oct 1, 20182 votes

Probably not

DoktorKaiserSep 29, 20184 votes

I don't even care about it being a massive spike for ADC players, what I care about is assassins abusing the shit out of this item. I swear to god it increases the initial burst more than this cancer item 3147

JnFnRuSep 29, 20184 votes

Thing is, EVERYONE builds Stormrazor.

Delete Stormrazor and Duskblade from the game and it'll be a much healthier place

SleepcomaSep 29, 20183 votes

Since when does everyone build it?

saltranSep 30, 20181 votes

Gameplay Boards

SleepcomaSep 30, 20181 votes

They should rename gameplay to complaints, because that's all the boards knows how to do.

ThilmerSep 29, 20183 votes

I agree.

This ítem is a mistake.

HammermancerSep 29, 20182 votes

I think duskblade, stormrazor, and triforce should get to combine into pentaforce, with the damage passives all resetting on a darkharvest to trap noobs into going the most expensive imaginable item ever

SaibboSep 29, 20182 votes

can we remove Stormrazor so ADC have only BORK again to build, please riot...

crispy66Sep 29, 20182 votes

eh it used to be good but it's garbage now, delete it, would make playing adc much easier

Neptunia xoxoSep 30, 20182 votes

item 3147 item 3095

Nausicäa Sep 30, 20182 votes

It would be great if they deleted both.

Neptunia xoxoSep 30, 20182 votes

[{quoted}](name=Nausicäa ,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=tUZo4908,comment-id=000f0000,timestamp=2018-09-30T05:53:07.385+0000)

It would be great if they deleted both.

Seeing as both items have caused nothing but balance problems yeah I'd think by now they would have deleted them.

ValiantKillerSep 29, 20181 votes

Don't forgot that they made all assassin busted with it, special Graves that goes between ADC and assassin world.

IG ZikoSep 29, 20181 votes

U forgot how good this item is on our beloved cat Rengo. He can ult one shot now with 2 items.

SuccPapíSep 29, 20181 votes

but overall adc's have been nerfed so i dont see the problem, thank god we at least are able to do some damage.

CIaymanOct 3, 20181 votes

They'll have to revert the crit item changes and the compensation buffs, too

Though I'd somewhat like to see Yasuo's winrate with 180% crit damage and old IE lol

Dr PoroOct 8, 20181 votes

I think ADC as a class is pretty okay right now. They're once again the prefered botlane carries but not overwhelmingly dominant. Also, the game isn't decided by which adc is the best/has the best peel. Mid/top/jungle can also solo carry now and as a support, you're not tied to solely the ADC but free to choose which carry you follow.

GojuOct 25, 20181 votes

Sadly , they will never "fix" or remove stormrazor - why? the answer is simple - ADC's whine louder then any other role in the game.

Case in point.. play a few games and watch your adc -

If they win -
* they carried hard if they lose - * Jungle did not gank enough * Support sucked * Mid lost there lane *insert any excuse except "My bad guys i sucked"

Its always everyone else on the team , and never the adc that fails - this has given them a false sense of superiority , and as such they think they need to be able to do every role in the game - it used to be very simple

_Tanks _- Meat shields they were there to get in the way, mitigate and suck up abilities so the rest of the team did not have to Support - Protection/ Heals - there to aid the carry at the start, give protection and heals, and some of them more aggressive engage, mid late mitigation. _Mage _- Magic bust - There so someone cant stack ARMOR? - ( I dont play many mages) _Assassin _- AD burst - there to lower the HP quickly and escape either getting the kill or lowering them for someone else to _Marksmen _- sustained damage - there to keep pressure on the other team, by pushing objectives

But the ADCs whined they could not carry because there team sucked.. first there support " took all there gold" and so Riot gave the suport gold/5 items and the meta changed to the support not killing creeps - then it was, the jungle never ganked, so ADCs got a increase in damage output, then Tank's were just too strong against sustained damage,( item 3083 ) to ADCs because burst based .. and as of late, they cant 100-0% someone so Crit was reworked to give them the abilities of the Assassin, with the sustained dmg of the ADC - and next will be that they are too weak aginst assassins, such as Rengar who can jump outta a bush and one shot anyone just about now a days - so they will most likely get a defense increase.

item 3095 - is just the current incarnation of a place where the "squeaky cog gets the oil" scenario - and while it has made champs like Jhin MissFortune - God-like.. and a host of other Marksmen mean as hell - it wont get changed because if they did , the ADCs will simply resort back to screaming and kicking there feet.

My sincere hope - is that champs like Gangplank Garen Gragas and a few other "Bruiser" champs, exploit this Item so hard that the ADCs end up being the ones that scream for its removal - has not happened yet, but its a hope -** Of course this is my my opinion -**