Sona's combo (Q - Auto) triggers 
three times and yet does not proc TLD.
For what reason does Lux get to trigger TLD while Sona is excluded? I am not asking for Sona buffs but it should be either both can do it or neither.
Akaterina3 votesLux hits with E, then hits with auto, and procs passive, that is 3 hits. Sona hits with Q and an auto, or 2 hits, and her Q can proc frost queens claim 3 times, if you hit 2 champions then hit an auto but since it is on 2 different targets you wont proc Thunderlords. I don't think you can proc it 3 times if you only hit 1 champion with a Q then one auto.
CppL3 votesCause lux AA after spell ,proc passive ,wich counts as a 3rd AA.
Sona Ping2 votesNo, Lux triggers Thunderlord's with three hits; Lux is functioning in line with other champions who function similarly with Thundelord's and proccing with three hits from three sources of damage.
Sona's Q aura looks to just increase autoattack damage; not any different from 
. Should Sona get this change to make her stronger with TLD? Possibly, I don't have a reason to oppose it anyways.
But that's a separate discussion; Thunderlord's Decree is functioning consistently.
Dominick Destine1 votes[{quoted}](name=Sona Ping,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=tQYlxww6,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2016-03-23T07:20:46.735+0000)
No, Lux triggers Thunderlord's with three hits
Wrong, it takes only two hits.
Hex the FenFen2 votesLux's passive counts as a spell, so it is 3 hits.
Dominick Destine1 votes[{quoted}](name=Drosera Eumelia,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=tQYlxww6,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2016-03-23T17:18:53.190+0000)
Lux's passive counts as a spell, so it is 3 hits.
Sona's Q active and Q passive also both count as spells.
They each trigger individually... point being; it should either work that way for Sona and Lux equally, or work for neither.
CatSith1 votesSona's Q passive is an empowered auto attack buff so it counts as 2 ( spell bolt and her empowered auto attack.)
Lux Q counts as 1(puts a passive on the target), Lux's auto attack counts as one ( then her passive being proced counts at 3.)
It really isnt hard to understand the difference.
Dominick Destine2 votesSona's Q passive is an empowered auto attack buff so it counts as 2
want to try again?
Lux Q counts as 1(puts a passive on the target), Lux's auto attack counts as one ( then her passive being proced counts at 3.)
Except Lux triggers it with Q auto whereas Sona does not.
Either Lux needs to do Q auto auto or Sona should trigger it with Q auto.
CatSith2 votesI don't understand how you can not see that lux's passive is different from an empowered auto attack.
Lux q bind Counts as 1 (Her Q applys her passive) Lux auto attack damage count as 1 Lux passive damage counts as 1 (when as soon as she lands her auto.) Number of procs : 3
Sona q damage counts as one. Sona Empowered auto attack count as one. Number of procs : 2
http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Thunderlord's_Decree
Lux's passive count as an ability damage not bonus auto attack damage which sona's q is.
Dominick Destine1 voteslux's passive is different from an empowered auto attack.
It counts as separate damage. Granted.
That being said, so does Sona's Q. Once again
Either Sona's Q Auto should trigger TLD or Lux's Q Auto should not.
weeaboomer2 votesMaybe fix her shit kit first instead of having it revolve even more around QQQQQQQQQQ.
1 800 MID LANE1 votesI think Lux's E counts as 2 alone. 1 for hitting the slow, and 2 for popping it.
Chaotic Sage1 votesNo...no. It's the damage from E (1), her auto attack following (2) and that auto attack igniting her passive damage (3).
1 800 MID LANE1 votesAh. Somehow I forgot about her passive. Herp derp.
Chaotic Sage2 votesEh, it happens to us all now and again.
cystium1 votesDespite riot claiming to want consistency and clarity they can be really inconsistent.
Lux passive counts as a separate instances of damage despite only needing one action to perform (see FQC), this total's 3 instances of damage and procs TLD. Sona Q / powerchord also counts as 2 different instance of damage (see FQC) with the Q projectile that should equal 3 but the combo somehow counts as only two for TLD.
Likewise sona Q does not affect turrets despite being a consumable AA empowerment rather than a passive/ on hit effect. Thing like oriana's clockwork, nashors and ardent censor don't work on turrets since they are passive on hit effects i.e. you can get multiple procs off (during a certain window). lichbane, sheen and diana passive do work on turrets since they empowers next auto after which the buff is consumed.
Sona Q clearly fit's the latter but somehow counts as the former for turrets. My only guess is that riot is actively trying to keep sona away from proplay. Why? this would make sona pretty strong with laneswap / turret trade situations we see in the LCS since it would significantly increase the speed at which they are taken.
Dominick Destine2 votesDespite riot claiming to want consistency and clarity they can be really inconsistent.
Lux passive counts as a separate instances of damage despite only needing one action to perform (see FQC)
Same with Sona, check FCQ interaction.
cystium1 votesI know, that's literally what i said in the sentence after the one you quoted XD.
ElysMustache1 votesBecause the three hits have to hit the same target. How hard is this to grasp?
cystium3 votesI think you misunderstand, this isn't about Q releasing 2 bolts. Q has 2 effects: it releases two bolts, and it empowers the next auto attack of sona and anyone who touches her aura. We know this empowered auto attack counts as 2 spells since an empowered auto uses 2 spelthief charges instead of one.
When sona uses her poke combo it counts as 3 spells/attacks according to spelthief and uses 3 charges (the bolt, the auto, the empowerment). yet TLD views the empowered auto as a single attack instead of 2, hence Sona has to auto attack twice to proc it.
It's a bit odd that 2 effects that are both triggered by the exact same thing (attacks and spells) consider an empowered auto differently.
Chaotic Sage1 votesIt's really very simple...Sona's Q + auto is only two sources of damage, even with her power chord. The Q damage and it's modifier to her next auto attack both count as a single source. Then her auto attack is the second source. It procs 3 instances of FQC due to it counting the auto attack empowerment as an additional bit of spell damage, not a separate instance (not entirely unlike a brand or malz DoT effect). As for Lux... It's the damage from E or Q (or even R) (1), her auto attack following (2) and that same auto attack igniting her passive damage (3). It would also work by hitting Q combined with R since it ignites her passive damage twice. It's really just a difference in the way the abilities are worded and I assume coded combined with the way TLD reads.
Dominick Destine2 votes[{quoted}](name=Chaotic Sage,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=tQYlxww6,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2016-03-23T19:21:53.554+0000)
It's really very simple...Sona's Q + auto is only two sources of damage
3 procs. The active and buff part of Sona's Q count as individual instances of damage.
It should trigger TLD for Sona or it should not trigger TLD for Lux, it should be consistent.
Chaotic Sage1 votes...Did you even read my post? FQC counts pretty much all instances of spell damage and basic attacks which includes modifier damage to them. Thunderlord's Decree only counts different instances of spells and basic attacks. Lux only is allowed to proc is because her passive is counted as a completely separate instance of spell whereas sona's Q and passive both just count as a single source of damage since they're auto attack modifiers. That's the real difference. Lux hits with 3 SOURCES of damage, Sona only gets 2 stacks because her extra damage comes solely from her auto attack being empowered rather than it triggering or 'igniting' a third SOURCE of damage like Lux does.
Dominick Destine1 votes[{quoted}](name=Chaotic Sage,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=tQYlxww6,comment-id=000600000000,timestamp=2016-03-23T19:50:46.218+0000)
Thunderlord's Decree only counts different instances
Sona's Q auto triggers 3 instances of , your argument is garbage.
Lux uses 1 spell and 1 auto to trigger TLD (Bug) and yet Sona needs Q auto auto despite being a three damage sequence. It is a glitch, either Sona needs to trigger TLD off of Q auto or Lux needs to NOT trigger TLD off of Q auto.
Chaotic Sage1 votes...You still didn't read. This is why you'll never be an arbiter like Deep Terror Nami.
Dominick Destine1 votes[{quoted}](name=Chaotic Sage,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=tQYlxww6,comment-id=00060000000000000000,timestamp=2016-03-23T20:44:05.005+0000)
...You still didn't read. This is why you'll never be an arbiter like Deep Terror Nami.
I would make a terrible moderator/arbiter.
I only ever jokingly refer to Deep Terror Nami in terms of jealousy.
Chaotic Sage1 votesCool story bro.
LordGeovanni1 voteswhile he does seem to champion the views of the average league player i have seen the guy around and some of his comments dont seem favorable to me