yet no one on these threads says a thing about that. She is the BEST top laner. She is highly mobile, incredibly tanky, very disruptive, and does A LOT of damage, often in my games doing the most damage while going full tank. I just don't understand why she isn't complained about. She has the most overloaded kit in the entirety of league. I just don't get it. Koreans know it, shes banned or in EVERY game. Maybe it will catch on eventually.
JayHog19925 votesHow to counter Poppy = Stay away from walls.
It's all about positioning, i've seen bot lane oponents being smart enough to counter Poppy supports.
She's only great to a certain extent.
Goodest Gamer1 votes"when you get ganked, just go up to the sky because if youdont, you're dead :)"
JayHog19921 votesHOnestly, you're better off running at her than trying to strafe around her and get yourself between a wall.
Goodest Gamer1 voteswhen theres a jungler coming after you too? hello?
JayHog19921 votesLook, you have two options when getting ganked.
Either you face them and die...
Or you get slammed and die...
And this is assuming that your summoners are down. So you can't seriously expect everything to be perfect for you. That's how the game works, if the enemy is smart, they'll punish you for your mistakes.
Calibansfury1 votesHow to counter Poppy = Stay away from walls.
It's all about positioning, i've seen bot lane oponents being smart enough to counter Poppy supports.
She's only great to a certain extent.
Stay away from walls....so basically...play mid? Or only play against her if you're playing red. And even then you need to hug your tower.
I say this because If you're purple top, looking out from your top tower, you have a rocky corner to your left. If you're in front of it that wall, at the mouth of the river, she'll hammer you northbound. If you're to the side of it she'll take you east, if you're north of it, she'll either go further north and crush you southbound or why the f not, just slam you against your own tower. Oh, move further way from the river you say? You mean...towards the other wall?
The issue isn't the slams. Not the slams alone anyway. It's how her Q is designed and how it synergizes with the slam. She Q's once, you might get hit, but you can miss the eruption and half the damage. But, if she slams you on a wall, you're there for the duration, taking the dash damage plus the wall damage plus 12% of your life plus her weapon and ability damage...twice.
it's stupid.
JayHog19921 votesTrust me, it's all about positioning. You should see how many people I slammed mid lane because they're not being careful or decide to just rush to their tower instead of... Oh... THE SIDE OF THE RIVER WHERE I DIDN'T COME FROM!?
Seriously, only reason I once ended up 16/4 in a match as Poppy jungle is because the enemy is never careful with positioning, for them it's RUN LIKE HELL AND CC ON THE WAY and panic and stuff...
Any other day, if I was matched against experienced people, I would get wrecked...
TheTarians3 votesShe has the most overloaded kit in the entirety of league.
ummmmm...... 
Goodest Gamer1 votes
? irelia has nothing on fioras epic balance.
TheTarians1 voteslet's see.
Irelia has a CC duration reducer based on how many enemy champs are near. A targetted resettable dash IF it kills the target . True Damage on hit + Flat health back on hit. A targetted Stun/Slow that can last up to two seconds. And an ult that can be casted 4 times dealing damage based off AD and AP, which also heals her for every unit hit.
Fiora has a true damage passive, which only can be done from one side which means if you are against a smart player then you may not be able to get it. Her Q is a standard dash that can be reduced cooldown IF it hits something. She has an auto attack re-setter which slows then crits. She has probably the stupidest thing in the game that can literally just make you not get thrown against the wall by a mega gnar, but is still easily dodged. And her ult is just a better version of her passive, which gives you a heal if all four true damage sections are hit.
So it really depends on what you define as overloaded. I say it is Irelia, because of her insane health regeneration due to her W and R, also her true damage per hit which can be applied 12.5 times if you have full AS. And then her dash is just an insanely mobile spell that helps her engage on her laning partner. Then her E is just a bullshit stun if you use it correctly.
Scazie2 votesBecause Boards only ever bitches about Assassins. Proof? Where are the Lux complaint threads? Nowhere, that's what. They're almost non-existent, despite her being arguably the most obnoxious, omnipresent and domineering midlaner in the game right now. But I guarantee that if I click on the front page I'll see some upvoted thread of someone crying about Zed, or some other Assassin.
I agree, Poppy is annoying to play against, I don't like her kit and feel that it's incredibly overloaded. But whatever keeps the bitchy mage/adc mains alive I guess.
DrNova2 votesBecause Boards only ever bitches about Assassins. Proof? Where are the Lux complaint threads? Nowhere, that's what. They're almost non-existent, despite her being arguably the most obnoxious, omnipresent and domineering midlaner in the game right now. But I guarantee that if I click on the front page I'll see some upvoted thread of someone crying about Zed, or some other Assassin.
I agree, Poppy is annoying to play against, I don't like her kit and feel that it's incredibly overloaded. But whatever keeps the bitchy mage/adc mains alive I guess.
You must have missed the period where there were hundreds of lux threads.
As usual now though people have moved on, and lux isn't spammed as much these days.
Scazie1 votesYou must have missed the period where there were hundreds of lux threads.
As usual now though people have moved on, and lux isn't spammed as much these days.
Lux is still spammed a lot, I see her like every other game, if I watch a streamer I will see her, if I check her playrate...it will be high.
TheTarians2 votesI remember about a month ago when I was first playing akali, and the enemy team had a lux. I destroyed her in lane and went on to carry my team.
Good times. Good times.
DorkunedAuras2 votesShe has the most overloaded kit in the entirety of league
Critmaster Garen2 votes
Jbels2 votes[{quoted}](name=Critmaster Garen,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=tOamQ7AP,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2016-03-20T19:42:20.529+0000)
DorkunedAuras1 votesEkko has more mobility and CC than lee
Jbels2 votesEkko has more mobility and CC than lee
Lee has two kits and more different things going on in his ult than any other champion in the game
DorkunedAuras1 votesDouble abilities does not mean dual kits. Most of his abilities are not strong enough to be solo abilities. A minor, super decaying slow? A lifesteal/spell vamp buff? No.
Meanwhile, Ekko has a double dash on his E, % missing hp on his basic attacks as a second passive, AN AOE 2.25 SECOND STUN AT RANK 1 THAT GIVES HIM A SHEILD BASED ON 1.3 HIS AP, A speed buff from his passive that also slows and does a big chunk of damage, A boomerang that also slows, A giant nope button that does 1.2 of his AP in a huge AoE that also heals him and makes him invincible as he dashes out of harm's way.
Compare that to Lee, who has a skillshot that'll let him dash to an enemy, A dash to an ally that can also give him LS/SV, An AoE damage that also can slow, and his Ult. His ult, while fairly overloaded, contains basically all his power past early/mid game and almost all his CC.
Ekko is an assassin who has more CC than a fair number of Tanks.
Jbels1 votesDouble abilities does not mean dual kits. Most of his abilities are not strong enough to be solo abilities. A minor, super decaying slow? A lifesteal/spell vamp buff? No.
Meanwhile, Ekko has a double dash on his E, % missing hp on his basic attacks as a second passive, AN AOE 2.25 SECOND STUN AT RANK 1 THAT GIVES HIM A SHEILD BASED ON 1.3 HIS AP, A speed buff from his passive that also slows and does a big chunk of damage, A boomerang that also slows, A giant nope button that does 1.2 of his AP in a huge AoE that also heals him and makes him invincible as he dashes out of harm's way.
Compare that to Lee, who has a skillshot that'll let him dash to an enemy, A dash to an ally that can also give him LS/SV, An AoE damage that also can slow, and his Ult. His ult, while fairly overloaded, contains basically all his power past early/mid game and almost all his CC.
Ekko is an assassin who has more CC than a fair number of Tanks.
I don't think you understand what Overloaded means. Overloaded means a champion has an above average number of things in their kit that may or may not relate to each other.
Ekko has: A Slow (passive) A slow field (Q) A Slow field (W) A stun(W) A shield (W) A short dash (E) A blink (E) Missing Health Damage (W) Heal (R) Untargetable dash (R)
Number of Mechanics: 10
Lee Sin has: Attack Speed Steroid (Passive) True Sight (Q) A single target dash (Q) A single target dash (W) Missing health Damage (Q) A shield (W) Life Steal (W) Spellvamp (W) True Sight (E) A Slow (E) A knockback (R) 1-4 knock-ups (R) Percentage of Target's max health to all targets hit by kicked target (R)
Number of Mechanics: 13
Overloaded =/= overpowered. Lee Sin's kit is the most overloaded kit in the game, that doesn't make it the most overpowered
Ralanr2 votesLast I checked, the best top laner was Kayle.
alfavhunter2 votesPoppy is constantly picked in Korea because of her ult, not her damage
Her damage heavily relies on the enemy makinng a mistake
Her ult heavily relies on the enemy being near her
Her ult is why she is taken
And her W for anti mobility vs commonly picked dash champions
NoPaxt1 votesHer entire kit relies on you being foolish enough to stand between her and a wall...
Scazie1 votes[{quoted}](name=Stark of Wrath,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=tOamQ7AP,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2016-03-20T18:51:19.430+0000)
Her entire kit relies on you being foolish enough to stand between her and a wall...
Yeah yeah, which is why she's FOTM and practically pick or ban across all elos in Korea, because those guys are totally inept at this game right?
NoPaxt1 votesIn NA everyone bans Jax, but do you think KO care about him? Doesn't mean NA is inept, just a different game style...
Scazie1 votes[{quoted}](name=Stark of Wrath,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=tOamQ7AP,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2016-03-20T19:26:33.082+0000)
In NA everyone bans Jax, but do you think KO care about him? Doesn't mean NA is inept, just a different game style...
A play style that doesn't win them Worlds...ever. :)
Elwynn1 votesA play style that doesn't win them Worlds...ever. :)
A look the EU player thinking that the s1 "worlds" mattered. Atleast NA has an international tournament win in the past 2 years. Unlike EU.
RogueWill1 votesShe lacks the mean to push a lead...simply as that. She is really good for an even or from behind laner but once she gets a lead her playstyle doesn't change at all. Is like alloi, they aren't as good when ahead and lack the ability to close games.
MysteriousBootie1 votesACtually, it is YOU who is broken summoner
Calabok1 votes________________is laughably broken.
fill in the blank.
GenghisEmo1 votesWell, she is broken on the sense she has %hp dmg.
Not broken overall though.
Has a lot of utility. Her W is overloaded.
But i think Ekko is more overloaded. Not awful, but relative to poppy.
Riþtide1 votesA good Garen can murder a Poppy any day....
DEMACIA
PopcornBunni1 votesBruv just stay on the road
Like what the fuck how is this a legitimate complaint just stay on the fucking road in the middle of the lane and Poppy can't do a fucking thing to you while you freefarm. She has the lowest health and one of the lowest base armors of any "tank" and eats shit in two-three autos until she buys three full items because her tankiness is completely gated behind her W passive.
