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This is insane. Zed has way too much safety.

SnugglePuggle94··10 votes·883 views

Literally just in my last game I played, I was playing Karma against Zed. I was wrecking him early on and whenever I think I'm about to get a kill, he shadows away before I can ignite and finish him off. But that's not the main part of the story. My support in the game, Soraka, got caught out by Zed and Shaco in the river and ran to me for help. I shielded her and she got to my turret safely and was going back to base in the middle of my two turrets. I went back to farming. Zed ults on top of me, FLASHES and shurikans on Raka and kills her, then bam is back to safety in an instant. I ulted my shield and as he ulted me but I did not expect he would do that, and get away without punishment, even from the turret.

Please, Rito. You buffed his ult damage a couple patches ago (which he entirely did not need), and with Hexdrinker he's already insane. With this stupid safety level he has, no wonder everyone is unhappy right now.

27 Comments

Dominick Destine2 votes

No no, we need to nerf Skarner, Rammus and Swain.

They're totally op... but buff Zed/Riven/Lee again pls roit.

TheSlogs2 votes

Ok, so this is what you do. As it is, you have to accept that he has safety in lane. That is how his champion works, just like champions such as Azir have safety in lane. When he dives you, he is incredibly open. This is when you have to take advantage. When he goes in on you, you have the advantage. You know what he wants to do, and you have the power to stop him. In one single button, you can end everything he wants to do. You activate stasis from your Zhonya's. You have outplayed Zed with a single item, congratulations!

Seriously though, you need to just accept that he has some safety in his kit. You need to take advantage of where he is weak, not constantly complain about where he is strong.

In summary: he is predictable, and he has predictable, non-instantaneous damage. Take advantage of that.

SnugglePuggle942 votes

Yes I get Zhonya's if I'm any other mid laner. I was Karma with a Rod of Ages as first item, with my shield and heal. Zed never even killed me. And the only time he did ult on me was when I said above that he ulted on me, flashed and killed Raka then got back to safety.

Every time in that game, he would ult someone and get away. I used my root and my ulted abilities, and he would still get away.

Edit: just saying, he has too much safety.

TheSlogs1 votes

You are actually refusing to use your ability to counter him. If you want more information on how to counter him, I have made a post for all the hundreds of people complaining about him on the Boards right now here.

SnugglePuggle942 votes

Dude. I don't think you're listening to me right. Zed wasn't a problem for me. I'm just commenting on how much safety he has. I know how to counter him.

Edit: Don't know why I'm getting downvoted either. Prbly just some stupid Zed lovers or something.

Crossette1 votes

Azir has safety, but actual weaknesses. Like mana, lack of extreme mobility, LACK OF INSTANT BURST, etc.

Hex the FenFen1 votes

Mages can't rush Zhonya's anymore, that is the problem. Zhonya's is a late game item, which i understand is why they raised the cost of it, but at the same time it is literally the only thing stopping Zed from killing you, and you can't get it anymore unless you are super good at farming under tower for the first 20+ min of the game.

Itadaki Seieki2 votes

I agree the one thing that needs to be done is to make his ulti a lot less safe.

You can't just ulti the target under the tower, burst them, laugh and R back to your far away shadow without taking damage.

It's not fun to sit there and get mastery emote spammed by some Zed because he can safely dive a tower while Rengar, Talon and Akali take tower damage all the time.

SnugglePuggle941 votes

To be fair it wasn't me that he bursted. I was full health but Soraka wasn't. She was behind me a bit. He ulted onto me, then flashed and hit his shrukan thingy on her and all the while I was shielding and rooting him and he still got out with about full health.

AnonymousPoro2 votes

Perhaps there should be a cool down on how long he can wait before he can take his shadow's position(his W, not his ult)? Maybe 1.5-2 seconds? And I agree; Zed's way too safe at the moment(and can/will destroy most mages)

MunchCrunchLunch2 votes

his shadow is on the ground for far too long. they need to reduce how long the shadow last. I mean often times he drops his shadow infront of minion waves to deny you farm. for few seconds. you go there try to farm. and you take unnecessary poke. stupid

SnugglePuggle941 votes

I know it's so annoying. And trying to dodge is hard too.

MunchCrunchLunch2 votes

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I know it's so annoying. And trying to dodge is hard too.

yeah i mean the stupid responses you get it "dodge, bait his shurikens". wut? bait? i have to depend on my opponents mistakes to win? what kind of response is that

Crossette1 votes

Bait the shurikens that are on an 11 second cooldown. Let him shadow/walk out of your abilities. Repeat.

Mecha MaIphite1 votes

He got a squishy support. Granted, it's important to take out Soraka so she can't spam heal in teamfights, but the point stands. If he aimed for a carry, he would've failed because any sensible carry would've built either item 3139 or item 3157 by then.

SnugglePuggle941 votes

The Ashe on my team I don't think she even built it.

Mecha MaIphite1 votes

Unless it was early in the game, it's her fault for not doing so. It's not a bad item even when they don't have someone like a Zed, QSS is already very useful.

SnugglePuggle941 votes

She's the one that fed Zed after I had shut him down and yea I don't think she knew to get one.

umbraˉ1 votes

If anything he needs more safety.

SnugglePuggle942 votes

He needs more? Are you insane?

umbraˉ1 votes

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He needs more? Are you insane?

No, I am only stating the truth.

SnugglePuggle942 votes

He already has too much, he does not need more!

umbraˉ1 votes

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He already has too much, he does not need more!

Trust me he needs more. Alongside some quality buffs.

SnugglePuggle942 votes

Uh no. If you think that Zed needs buffs and more safety....you're insane. I think you are just a Zed lover and want him even more oppressive.

umbraˉ1 votes

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Uh no. If you think that Zed needs buffs and more safety....you're insane. I think you are just a Zed lover and want him even more oppressive.

No, I want what is best for this game.

SnugglePuggle942 votes

No, that is not what is best for the game. That is making the game worse.

Crossette2 votes

So you WANT a second Rengar with two free blinks to exist?

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