Oh good , the first nerf to elixers is to the tank elixer.

hashinshin··76 votes·3,827 views

Not to the mage or AD elixer which are the ones bought consistently every single game. No, the first nerf goes to the tank elixer. Which is barely ever bought.

Riot is very consistent if nothing else.

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Kingsgrave48 votes

"how dare they bug fix 100% tenacity irelia"

Caezium3 votes

Could they have just changed the interaction between Irelia and the elixer? It wasn't broken on anyone else that comes to mind.

Oh well.

RogueWill2 votes

You forget this girl that also has some kind of tenacity on her kit Sejuani Specially if you go item 3009 item 3725 item 2138 tenacious mastery and swiftness plus her 25% reduced effects of slow in her passive it was practically a Master Yi Ult all the time. Even if you landed a slow it will last like 0.5 sec which would be laughable compared to her 2 sec slow on E.

Von Vetur1 votes

Shhhhhh or they will nerf my preciousssssss item 3070

Circuit Bear5 votes

um.. This was a thing? Tenacity had diminishing returns last I heard. I thought getting over 70% was suppose to be hard just for Irelia mainly.

TehNACHO7 votes

Partially true. Iron used to add tenacity (which doesn't cause diminishing returns), not multiply it (which would cause the diminishing returns).

Circuit Bear2 votes

Interesting. Sorry I haven't played lately so I didn't hear about this.

I am amazed nobody saw this coming honestly.

Hyrum Graff4 votes

Tenacity normally has diminishing returns but the elixer didn't. This change made the elixer also have diminishing returns so Irelia couldn't get a better Olaf ult in teamfights.

hashinshin1 votes

Can we bug fix 30% lifesteal ADCs and Zed?

Kingsgrave1 votes

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Can we bug fix 30% lifesteal ADCs and Zed?

It's only 10% assuming you are talking about Elixir of Wrath

Half the duration if you die while it is activated and remove the AD it gives you. Everything else about it is neat though.

Jacky Shen19 votes

You could get 100% tenacity on Irelia with the tank elixir. That's why they changed it.

Brorelia23 votes

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You could get 100% tenacity on Irelia with the tank elixir. That's why they changed it.

darn it

They found out.

ProfDrDeath14 votes

Not 100%.

But 90%, which is enough to reduce all CC below the level where you can really notice it.

Champion Skin3 votes

Well though there are still all these knock up and knock backs all over the place and stuff but yeah pretty op

Ligerzz6 votes

If only i knew this earlier item 3070Ireliaitem 3070

ilovecandy694 votes

So what you're saying is they thought they better nerf irelia?

Salzigorimando1 votes

Honestly surprised it hasn't been said yet, bonus points to you.

Jamaree16 votes

Where did you get info on which elixir is bought more then others?

Rinky Dinky8 votes

I see Iron waaaaaaaay more than the other ones

Mecha MaIphite18 votes

I usually just get iron to make myself look big. :D

SecretAgentHulk1 votes

And that is why it is seen the most often.

Tis a nice day1 votes

I'm pretty sure its cuz it makes you nice and big

at night

Jamaree1 votes

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I see Iron waaaaaaaay more than the other ones

Ditto.

RasCaelestis6 votes

I once got Iron on Viktor simply because steel is an alloy of iron and carbon (with small quantities of other elements) and "Steel can fix all your flaws!"

I was also incredibly fed (like 27/2/13) that game and could insta-kill most of the enemy team even without an elixir. Wanted to mess around a bit that game, and when I told my friend (and teammate that game) why I had it, his groan made everything I sacrificed worth it. ^_^

coppinslinger7 votes

The problem was that item 2138 was better on certain bruisers than on Tanks anyways, haha.

Honestly, tanks can go for item 2138 or item 2139 if you want more damage. Since the sorcery adds true damage and not much scaling, it's great on tanks with AoE and can use the extra AP!

ArcticSirius6 votes

Honestly, I'm buying the tank one more often and earlier than the other ones. The one I rarely buy is the Ruin one

disregardable1 votes

The Ruin one is the only one I buy before my full build. I just usually forget to use it when I get it.

Salzigorimando1 votes

hehehe, ruin+ zz'rot = cruelty to turrets

Lost In Time4 votes

Yeah, not like my last game consisted of 3 enemies buying Iron Elixir or anything!

I, personally, preferred Elixir of Ruin for actual HP rather than the "FOCUS ME HARDER' size increase but I play fighters when I'm forced to...

PPPPPPPPPPPP2704 votes

That additive tenacity buff is overpowered.

70% reduction in CC duration. That 2 second stun is now .6 seconds.

Heck you would not even know you got stunned from a Riven.

Oh yeah that Irelia 100% tenacity is broken.

Solidair33 votes

Was nerfed because of Irelia, it seems.

But tanks suffer more...

ImHerVoice2 votes

lmfao i actually did this on irelia with a friend in KR/ its hilarious rammus+ fiddle fear/taunt dont even exist it feels like lmao.

Remlap12232 votes

They nerfed elixir of Ruin? The bastards!

Oh just The 100% Irelia tenacity potion? Remind me why this was a problem again?

YOU BEEN WARNED2 votes

That's not the only tank-ish thing they nerfed.

item 3512

... It didn't even get popular...

http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/hEt0yERb-i-feel-depressed-zzrot-portal-feedback

Ale non è male2 votes

It wasn't working properly at first stance, so it's a fix rather than a nerf

Champion Skin1 votes

Well it isn't actually a nerf if you don't have any other forms of tenacity (though if you really are a full tank you probably have the tenacity from the masteries)

Orangesilk1 votes

I build it on Cho'Gath, but exclusively for shits and giggles, sorcery is WAY better for tanks since it makes them impossible to ignore.

Hellish Prophecy1 votes

Depends on what your Cho build is. Usually I will guaranteed put these items on him depending on the situation: item 3001 item 3265 item 3110 item 3143 item 3027 item 3068 item 3075 item 3083 I ALWAYS grab the boots and the AP items shown, though. Tanky with enough AP to be an insane threat even to their tank in teamfights.

f00G3MxfPP1 votes

I bought wrath on every ad character (sometimes not irelia) so change is inconsequential for me. Wrath elixir's refresh effect is so good especially if you're ahead. Full snowball potential.

yellowbricks1 votes

So instead of putting a cap on tenacity which would be the logical thing, they nerf another tank thing just because one champ could get close to 100% of a stat that should really just cap at 50 or so? Fucking genius. I think riot is just taking the piss at this point, because there's just no way. They're rapidly approaching full retard.

TheI3igDaddy1 votes

I think it was a warranted nerf, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't nerf the others. Take away the rests on Wrath, for example. It heals for 10% of ALL physical damage and refreshes on kill or assist for another block of time. It's stupid.

Iron's still a great elixir for Chogath though, just to make the dragon shit its pants whenever you walk down the river.

pleep1 votes

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I think it was a warranted nerf, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't nerf the others. Take away the rests on Wrath, for example. It heals for 10% of ALL physical damage and refreshes on kill or assist for another block of time. It's stupid.

Iron's still a great elixir for Chogath though, just to make the dragon shit its pants whenever you walk down the river.

Why do some people want to ruin every fun thing in the game?

TheI3igDaddy1 votes

Nah I like fun things in the game. Resets aren't one of them though. They only let the user have fun at the expense of everything else.

Done251 votes

It sounds to me like they should have had it work this way in the first place.

Jungle Lux God1 votes

This change is a nerf except when you don't get tenacity from other items. However, this change is also worth it for the clarity because it being changed to work just like other forms of tenacity.

Lost In Time1 votes

ITT: People don't know what Elixir of Iron is and keeps calling it Elixir of Ruin.

/facepalm

Hellish Prophecy1 votes

Considering Irelia is a big issue with the Elixer, why not make changes that only affect her and some other champs that turn it into something anti-fun overpowered? Instead of nerfing the entire goddamn tank item....once again.

Rikari1 votes

because someone who can stroll through all forms of cc is balanced.

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