A problem with what Morello said about Athene's

Smitemuffin··2 votes·331 views

Meddler's exact words on a thread were: "Athene's was changed because of how heavily overlapped with Morello's it was, the two items had always occupied very similar spaces to the extent only one was ever popular."

http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/VoPdto0T-game-design-meddler-whats-riots-stance-on-cdr?comment=0001

Okay, I'm following what you're saying except that...

item 3046 item 3085 item 3087 item 3094

What was that about overlap?

  1. item 3085 item 3087 item 3094 all cost 2600 except item 3046 at 2550
  2. All 30% crit chance
  3. All 30-40% attack speed
  4. All give movement speed

ADCs get 4 choices for the same package of stats. But mages as AP carries are only allowed one while the items item 3089 item 3135 and item 3157 are_** already dictated to them in 90% of games**_ along with either item 3020 or item 3158 . So now we just cut them down to item 3165 and dictate 5 items of out of their 6-item build. That's fair. It's bad enough that the item 3001 changes, item 3165 item 3152 and item 3030 are worse on mages than for AP assassins to abuse them with. But no, lets just cut our big CDR options down to one item. Both major mana items for APCs already take 10+ minutes to stack and they're not allowed to have sustain, so it's not like they're getting the short end of the stick in itemization.

Yes, Meddler said in his next comment that they need one more AP/20% CDR item. That's great, except

item 3085 item 3094 item 3087 item 3046

2 is nowhere close to 4. Nevermind the synergy with the infinite mana item item 3508

This is why the mage roster update has been a total failure and more people are quitting.

2 Comments

Quepha1 votes

There's no clear "best" item out of the zeal items, what you buy is based on the champion you're playing and the type of game you're having. The passives are all powerful but unique in their purpose.

There was always a "best" item out of Athene's and Morello. Their passives were generally considered mostly useless except in rare situations so mages would always just buy whichever one happened to give a better mix of AP, cdr, and mana.

Smitemuffin1 votes

Which is faulty design on Riot's part, because the items were never really that similar.

Old (S3) Morellonomicon: 80 AP, 20% CDR, 20 mana/5, grievous wounds Old (S3) Athenes: 60 AP, 40 MR, 20% CDR, 15 mana/5, Mana Font

Season 4 Athenes: 25 MR

They're not really THAT similar. One is clearly for defensive farmers, the other is more damage for assassins and earlier DPS

More from Gameplay

More by Smitemuffin