Another drop in the overall AP bucket...Rylies just lost 25 ap.

xxxMadLionxxx··3 votes·476 views

It looks like soon all ap items will be on the same value as the higher AD items. I mean, item 3031 gives 70 AD. Now we only have a few items that give over 100 ap left.

What next Riot... lets give 80 ap item 3165 because.. you know...mages have sustain damage and are not limited by cooldowns like their AD counter parts.

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Done251 votes

Damn it Riot, stop nerfing AP! It's already hard enough to find these days after Zhonya and Unholy got dumpstered.

koreansmurf87511 votes

unholy didn't get dumpstered, just rly rly situational zhonyas got shat on nerfing ap, feelsbadman

Done251 votes

The new Unholy passive is awful. Unholy now barely gives any mana regen and the regen passive is only good on tank supports. So basically: Braum, Taric, and Thresh.

koreansmurf87511 votes
  1. why the hell u getting down voted lul
  2. I get that and I know which is why I said rly rly situational, in the same kind of way that warmogs is situational wink wink
Done251 votes
  1. Same reason you are I guess. People don't want mages to be viable.
  2. Ohhh, I get it...by situational you mean trash! I gotch ya. ;D (I still remember when Warmogs gave like 1370 HP.)
koreansmurf87511 votes

there you go, now u get it buddy :D

Asayake 5150glow1 votes

That shoulda been a Deathcap ;(

But hey, that's not really fair. The AD equivalent of Rylai's is BC, which gives 50 AD. The AD kinda equivalent of Zhonya's gives 50(no more maw)75 AD or 65 AD with 15 lethality...

Let's just not forget that AP items mostly have much more utility than AD items. At least, they used to. Not sure how high Duskblade's utility ranks on the scale.

Big Lincoln1 votes

Rylai needed the nerf, 100 AP with health and a 40% slow was ridiculous

But ludens and Dcap need buffs

xxxMadLionxxx2 votes

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Rylai needed the nerf, 100 AP with health and a 40% slow was ridiculous

But ludens and Dcap need buffs

i have no problem with the nerf, it just overal, a lot of items have lost ap. We used to have 3 items with 120 ap, and i think 3 more items with 100 ap. The average mage could have a total of 800-900 AP at full build. Now its more like 700 ap.

WoonStruck2 votes

Blue gives +15% AP, and multiplies (not adds) with deathcap's multiplier.

Big Lincoln1 votes

to be fair most mages are doing very well despite the nerf to AP items

Astôlfo1 votes

Good. It shouldn't have ever had that much AP in the first place.

WoonStruck1 votes

It losing 25 AP isn't a big deal.

Non-intended mages abusing it, causing the HP to get cut by 100 and the slow to get absolutely gutted compared to before is what hurts.

And you're complaining about the AP. Lol.

Utility mages in general need nerfs outside of itemization.

RogueWill1 votes

May I remind you that item 3116 used to give 60AP until it was overbuffed? That was the reason that it was only built on niche champions instead of a must buy for everyone that messed up AP ratios

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