Why do people think Taliyah is bad?

LaughingStapler··6 votes·7,084 views

I admit that I haven't played her but she seemed pretty decent when I faced her as Ziggs. She could dodge almost everything and create pretty good lane pressure elsewhere. Her damage didn't seem horrible either but not enough to be an assassin.

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Sweet Butt4 votes

When a champ has a face that literally cries "Kill me", ofc she's going to be labelled as a bad champion. [zombie-nunu-bummed]

Kai Guy3 votes

Not out long enough for people to invest in her mechanics and given a high skill cap lots of folks will pick up and fail with her. This will create game losses that some times are entirely the tali players fault. Worked ground throws people off, despite how awesome her q is. her R does not do damage, and requires teammates to follow up and once agian her being new means folks dont quite know her kit and follow up late or the caster mis casts and its a fail wall. Some champions that on release where thought to be trash and who i personally got flammed for as they where "garbage champs" Azir Yasuo TahmKench Bard Jayce

Tldr, give her a bit more time and it will mellow out a good deal. her utility is awesome but a lot of players only value damage output via instant burst.

Woook3r2 votes

....you said she is ok because she could dodge ziggs bombs?

PrometheS1 votes

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....you said she is ok because she could dodge ziggs bombs?

She is very fast. I can see how she might counter skillshot only champs.

ShinkoMinori1 votes

she isn't bad but the majority of players playing her right now are awful.

Odd Gnome1 votes

She's a pretty high skill champion but at the same time her damage is severely lacking. Currently sitting at a 40% win ratio.

http://imgur.com/xq2EpOR

ShinkoMinori1 votes

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She's a pretty high skill champion but at the same time her damage is severely lacking. Currently sitting at a 40% win ratio.

http://imgur.com/xq2EpOR

that kda...

LSmaster161 votes

I'm actually not sure, she has a rough time against assassins like most mages but aside from that she seems pretty good to me. I guess maybe people who are new to the champion having trouble with the worked ground and comvbo could be dragging the winrate down.

Maximum Morde1 votes

Because all the bad guys always have those eyebrows. It's just like having a pointy mustache makes you the evil twin man. We just know.

http://static.thefrisky.com/uploads/2014/05/13/baby-eyebrows-051314-600x450.jpg

Simpumba1 votes

She's very good, but she lacks damage.

Malfini1 votes

Taliyah is not bad to begin with.

One of the main reason, imo, some players, at least the loud ones, say Taliyah is bad because no pro players are playing Taliyah . Just wait when pro players begin to play her. Those sheep will follow.

MLDzXnRRR1 votes

Unreliable, harder to play than many other champions, squishy.

TSwift Is Sexy1 votes

Because she is new and people are still reading her abilities while on the way to lane. Those are the ones (and their teammates) saying she is bad. New champs are auto at least 2 week ban for me.

Lady Hammerlock1 votes

Her early damage is pathetic,Her Q's dmg is beyond sad

A majority of her damage is highly tied into her decently hard to land E+W combo

Wolfram Oxford1 votes

I guess assassin-like damage is expected from most mages these days. Riot actually did a good job by not releasing an overpowered burst mage.

Angry Monster1 votes

I admit that I haven't played her but she seemed pretty decent when I faced her as Ziggs

So she was able to hold her own against a turtle champion that is low threat.... great

here is why is she is bad

http://champion.gg/champion/Taliyah

Non damage ult, Highly conditional Q that is easily dodged, E W combo that counts on the high latency of players in order to work. A skill cap that ever zed player claims that zed has.

I am not even a Taliyah player but i have seen her played enough to understand her problems. I am not sure why you use your one of as justification of her strength. You are not even a mid main (as far as ranked is concerned). Why would you think that someone holding out against you is positive in a meaningful way? When i end up mid (as a jungle top main)and someone does not beat me it shows 1 of 2 things. The champion is either weak or the player is garbage. I did not beat them, they failed to take advantage of my weakness.

This post is a prefect example why you have not hit gold again this season.

LaughingStapler1 votes

Lol, I haven't hit Gold, I've hit Plat (solo not with DQ). It's stupid how you think I must only have one account when I barely even played ranked on here. It also has little to do with anything I wrote. You think I played Kassadin and Lucian jungle on here because I'm trying to climb? I'm just having fun with whatever I feel like.

Also, I didn't say she was good. I only gave my experience and was curious about all the hate.

Akali is SO HOT1 votes

She'll be broken in a few patches when she's overbuffed

Bobloser35551 votes

Her early game damage is insane if she hits but later she falls off so bad, her damage is not that low but since its all ties to skillshots that are very unreliable it makes her very bad imo.

deadlychuck1 votes

She completely lacks agency as a champion. She lacks burst damage, she lacks early game pressure to get her into her roaming phase, and she has really isn't compensated with utility enough for her damage loss.

Her kit is very similar to ziggs, except with mobility and utility ult and passive.

So you pretty much just player her like a TF with no burst damage, and unreliable CC.

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