Like I understand new players would think wow there are so many cool champions..
but after for player for so many years I feel that there's such a small pool of playable ones... and when I get the playable ones (unbanned or something) my team grabs the gimped champs lol
Moody P1 votesThe disparity between good and bad champions is the lowest it's ever been in my opinion and Riot has done a good job balancing in the context of their current design
The thigh guy1 votes[{quoted}](name=Moody P,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=snwA6JnE,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-04-24T23:20:17.304+0000)
The disparity between good and bad champions is the lowest it's ever been in my opinion and Riot has done a good job balancing in the context of their current design
I think we are playing two very different games.
Amumu. 54.47% winrate the past week. Ryze. 43.9% winrate the past week.
Also have you played adc in the past year? That role is litteraly pick top 3 or feed.
Moody P1 votesWin rate really isnt an accurate measure of strength for most champions. Especially not Ryze, who is still a high value pick in competitive and high elo and has very good performances on his dedicated player base. The average win rate only really tells you how well the average player (e.g not a dedicated player) can do with them, and it's only something you should consider if it's unusual (e.g a very low skill floor champion like Garen having a 46% winrate), or a very sudden spike in performance either way (if Vayne dropped to 40% overnight).
Ryze is essentially balanced at 43% because he is balanced around his best players and not someone who plays him occasionally. This is hard to explain to people because they really like to center around the idea that a 50% automatically implies presence.
ADC has always been like that.
The thigh guy1 votes[{quoted}](name=Moody P,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=snwA6JnE,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2019-04-24T23:47:51.248+0000)
Win rate really isnt an accurate measure of strength for most champions. Especially not Ryze, who is still a high value pick in competitive and high elo and has very good performances on his dedicated player base. The average win rate only really tells you how well the average player (e.g not a dedicated player) can do with them, and it's only something you should consider if it's unusual (e.g a very low skill floor champion like Garen having a 46% winrate), or a very sudden spike in performance either way (if Vayne dropped to 40% overnight).
Ryze is essentially balanced at 43% because he is balanced around his best players and not someone who plays him occasionally. This is hard to explain to people because they really like to center around the idea that a 50% automatically implies presence.
ADC has always been like that.
If you don’t use winrates which are the only available statistics to judge a champions performance then you are just rolling dice to decide what champions are buffed and nerfed.
Or you are adjusting based on feelings. Neither of which is a practice of good balance in a game.
So either situation ends up with major inbalance.
And yes. Adc has always been like that. Hence balance is not even close to good at any point in this game.
Moody P1 votespresence is a lot more important. Irelia had a 47% Win rate in soloQ at one of her strongest points in pro play and still got nerfed.
Most champions who are very strong will have high pick or ban rates even if their win rate isnt high. Ezreal is the most recent example of this and many people in ranks higher than my own told me he was the best champion in the game despite also having a mediocre win%
The thigh guy1 votes[{quoted}](name=Moody P,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=snwA6JnE,comment-id=00000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-04-25T00:11:19.944+0000)
presence is a lot more important. Irelia had a 47% Win rate in soloQ at one of her strongest points in pro play and still got nerfed.
Most champions who are very strong will have high pick or ban rates even if their win rate isnt high. Ezreal is the most recent example of this and many people in ranks higher than my own told me he was the best champion in the game despite also having a mediocre win%
So by that logic, zed and yasuo having the highest pick ban rates in the game for the last 4 years means they should be gutted?
iChimp1 votesMy guy, are you suggesting Amumu is even a half decent champion?
The thigh guy1 votesMy guy, are you suggesting Amumu is even a half decent champion?
He has a 54+% winrate after getting his build buffed and direct buffs.
