How Can I Carry Silver Feeders?

Woodakoodashooda·Oct 28, 2016·1 votes·985 views

Please, I would like to know how to carry teams where two lanes give 10+ collective kills by ten minutes in no matter how well I personally perform.

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B00B00Oct 28, 20164 votes

jungle and play a team fighter and team fight ender, like hecarim, ammumu, nunu (yes nunu right now is mental)

i would honestly suggest master Yi, afk farm then start split pushing and running at people killing them, honestly get to know his spike get there asap and end a game before it starts.

how i left silver was by switching to jungle as my team just wanted to skirmish, so instead i ignored my team for the most part ganking when only the success rate was almost certain and i just pushed lanes, enemy jungle is bot? ill go through his top jungle and get the top turret not listening to any top lane pings.

tops being camped? push bot in and take the turret, he's coming down? farm through the jungle to top and then take top turret.

always ward so you can find the enemy jungle.

basically keep map pressure high pushing your enemy jungle to be re-active instead of pro-active.

my strat has now stopped at G4 for two reasons 1) jungle skill gap is tremdiously high from silver > god i have found 2)have a newborn

WoodakoodashoodaOct 28, 20161 votes

Thanks for the tips.

WoodakoodashoodaOct 28, 20161 votes

So...I tried it and nothing's changed. I still get lanes that feed off their asses and no matter how far ahead I manage to get, I still end up losing it all.

Last game was lost because after I successfully stole a dragon from the enemy baroned team, my allies all dove the entire enemy one at a time and died one at a time and then questioned me as to why I ran away. Why? Because I had the objective and there was no point in staying!

B00B00Oct 28, 20161 votes

eh don't try to steal if your teams around you can't rely on them, let them fight and die while your pushing the opposite side of the map, players cannot deal with the pressure being asserted and the value of drakes isn't as much as players preseve, also be sure to identify team comps, its a poke comp getting fire? fuck it let em. melee/assasins getting ocean? fuck it, let em get a turret.

are you pushing objectives more than ganks? or do you find yourself trying to bank after the enemy has tried or are reacting to it? what you don't want to do is be pushed into a reactive role you want to be the one taking over the game from the shadows.

remember to ward jungle entrances, in mid lane the bush to the right of the enemy turret, shove a pink there, its seldom ever checked for wards and get your mid lane to put one below red or blue depending on map side thats also never checked, this will help you keep track of where the jungle is or isn't, if the mid won't do it just place a stealth one down of your own.

once you have ganked succesfully on whatever jungler do NOT leave the lane, push it in, ignore the pings and take a god damn turret, repeat the process.

make sure you bank form the side lane bushes coming in from the back they are hardly warded and very good positions for ganks.

try ammumu, but farm a lot and instead of doing what a lot of people do do NOT use bandage to engage its easy to dodge and by the time your in usually you only get into one person instead flash in, ult and use your bandage after they have flashed or are trying to run, you WILL stop them and get a team advantage.

FioraWillCarryOct 28, 20161 votes

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Please, I would like too know how to carry teams where two lanes give 10+ collective kills by ten minutes in no matter how well I personally perform.

You don't carry those games. It's impossible.

I've been spamming ranked hardcore last couple of weeks trying to get back into Silver before season ends. I've accepted that there isn't enough time but from my mass spamming of games, I've realized something:-

If your goal is to carry, there are two kinds of games that can happen. Simply put, games that can be carried and games that can't be. The uncarriable games can be easy to determine when you have a troll or afk but feeders are going to be the number 1 reason for uncarriable games. If your team gives more kills than minutes have passed in the game, ie, 1+ kill per minute, you have a bonafide uncarriable and you should try to ff asap and not waste time. Do every thing in your power to convince your team to ff. Examples of such games, at 15 minutes the score is 23-6, at 25 minutes, the score is 37-9, at 21 minutes the score is 23-5. Accept these games as losses. When these games happen what it usually means is that you have a stupid team. Plain and simple.

Carriable games can be identified firstly, if you have no afks. Secondly, watch the rate of feeding. If for example at 15 minutes your team is behind with a score of 7-3, this might be carriable but not set in stone yet. Keep farming and prepare to carry and if by say 25 minutes in the same game your team is behind still with a score like 17-11, this is perfectly carriable. If however by 25 minutes, it's 17-4 then it's probably not carriable. Though in this scanario your team isn't feeding a kill per minute, the ratio between your team's kills and the enemy team's kills is far too much in their favor. You probably have a stupid team here and 99% of the time they are gonna continue feeding.

In the last couple of days, I've begun to start games with this in mind. I farm and try not to do anything too risky just to give the game some time so I can determine if I can carry. If by 10 minutes, my team feeds 11 kills and we have like 3 or 4 kills, I accept it as a loss. It greatly helps with tilting. I don't tilt as much since I expect the loss. I stop trying and I just play and hope that either my team catches up and if so, I may be able to farm up and carry if not, I ff at 20 and do everything in my power to convince my team to ff.

TLDR; You MUST accept that feeders are a huge part of the game and there is nothing we can do about it. It is still possible to climb by carrying every single game that is carriable which is what you should focus on. There are enough carriable games to facilitate a climb.

EmojayOct 28, 20161 votes

I am the players of lee sin, Vayne, and master yi! I am the very skillfullest, and dessere challenger! Yay. I also am bronze 5, but am feelings like I'm challenger not cuz noob teams. - 50 percent of lee sin players.... Ya, to carry, play poppy jungle.

BladeSteelOct 28, 20161 votes

Poppy jg has a really low winrate though...If that works for you thats fine, but don't tell others to do it XD

SGT Dingle BerryOct 28, 20161 votes

Try to help BEFORE it gets out of hand. Put in that little extra work by pinging the map for other lanes, roam if you can, ask your lanes kindly to step back behind the line of no return so ganking them won't be so easy. Sometimes it helps and most the time they tell you to piss off but it's worth a shot. Most people under gold don't grasp the concept of wave management and map awareness.