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Champions that might need a buff

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Varus : His passive is weak. His Q damage is greatly reduced by minions. His E got unecessary nerfs a long time ago. His total lack of mobility doesn't pay for his "utility"

Ashe : Her passive is one of the worst, you could switch her passive with talon. Her only damaging tool has average damage. Her ult is negated by crucible.

Urgot : I don't know what exactly say about him, since I never played him. I think the buff he will receive will not change anything, but it is a good step.

Mordekaiser : No riot , your "rework" didn't change his total lack of CC and mobility. That ms boost is pretty lame , and you also nerfed the damage to compensate, when he didn't need any compensation nerfs. Also, his base health regen got nerfed for no reason at all.

Karthus : His passive seems bugged sometimes, with a huge delay to use his Q. He is also jungler food, his Q delay can be easily sidestepped by more than half of the roster nowadays.

Malzahar : The only thing he needs I think is reduced mana costs, since morello is bad on him, and rilay is better than rod of ages on him.

Brand : He needs to combo to burst someone, even though 2 of his skills are skillshots that are easy to dodge. His teamfight is not strong because people can get away from eachother. The nerf to bluebuff nerfed more champions with low sinergy with morello-athenes than those who bought it every single game.

Ziggs: Ok, he was annoying as fuck, but nowadays, he is just a worse version than xerath. No reason to pick him at all.

Lux : Like ziggs, just a worse version of xerath.

Vel'Koz : He pushes really bad a lane without having to use his W twice and his E. I think improving this would make him a good mid laner.

Shyvana ( as a top laner ) : I think the problem when she was "op" where the masteries, not her itself. Reverting her nerfs would make her fine I think

Might add more soon

16 Comments

The Necron3 votes

Well dont forget urgot, consistently the worst champ in the game for several years. Zac, zero damage or cc, not even great tank. Aatrox, cant even lifesteal better than fiora which is what his main point was. Fizz, who wasn't even that great but they felt like they hadn't totally nerfed enough yet. Xin, whos been totally useless with his 0 damage and cc and his almost ok tank. Anivia and her pathetic damage with no mobility. Galio with his actually ok champ design but they decided not to do anything with him. Gangplank and his zero damage or cc or tank. Miss fortune one of the most if not the most pathetic adc in the game. Olaf who is an embarrassment of minimal damage or tank or cc. Poppy with her totally unimpressive kit.

Uperior1 votes

I think your misspelled "Kassadin" ;D

Bârd1 votes

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I think your misspelled "Kassadin" ;D

Yes, that 35% winrate definatley needs to be lowered.

Slamurai Jack1 votes

Varus I will agree with, his kit seems underwhelming and not rewarding enough for how immobile he is. Ashe, on the other hand, is one of the best adcs in the game right now, particularly in high elo. Here is the data from champion.gg , which logs all plat+ games.

Provengreil1 votes

I suspect that's in spite of rather than due to the passive though.

Joe Dredd1 votes

Vel'koz is actually pretty strong atm. Lux isn't weak. Ziggs ^^ Malz is strong af lmao Brand isn't weak. Karth isn't weak. do you even play morde? or did you see the changes, play one game with him, get shitstomped because you can't morde, and then say he is UP? Riot doesn't want urgot to be shit. But they don't want him to be good either. His kit is cancer. Ashe isn't bad, pretty good actually. I agree on Varus, but Riot has already been steadily buffing him.

DropFill1 votes

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Vel'koz is actually pretty strong atm. Lux isn't weak. Ziggs ^^ Malz is strong af lmao Brand isn't weak. Karth isn't weak. do you even play morde? or did you see the changes, play one game with him, get shitstomped because you can't morde, and then say he is UP? Riot doesn't want urgot to be shit. But they don't want him to be good either. His kit is cancer. Ashe isn't bad, pretty good actually. I agree on Varus, but Riot has already been steadily buffing him.

Have you seen ANY of this champs in LCS? No. Exactly. It means they are not strong because if not even professionals use them, I can't imagine who can. Malzahar is not strong AF. Ashe is bad. Karth and brand are both bad, stop with this BS, no one plays this champs because are much better options. Yes, I played morde. Even though I won my lane hard, couldn't do much in the game, because you know, squishy immobile low range mage.

Joe Dredd1 votes

LCS doesn't define whether a champion is good or not.

DropFill1 votes

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LCS doesn't define whether a champion is good or not.

How does a competitive match with the best players of each region playing a match that they NEED to win does not define whether a champion is good or not?

Joe Dredd1 votes

Because the LCS meta is not the same as Solo Queue. Different champions are good in different metas, similar to how renekton was god tier s3 but with the introduction of ryze and other ranged champions his usefulness dropped

DropFill1 votes

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Because the LCS meta is not the same as Solo Queue. Different champions are good in different metas, similar to how renekton was god tier s3 but with the introduction of ryze and other ranged champions his usefulness dropped

LCS meta is what the solo meta tries to be, but fails. Doesn't mean the champions they use on the lcs aren't the best

Joe Dredd1 votes

I rarely watch LCS but from what I've seen they also try to run double jungle for the first clear, and we all see that so often during Solo Queue. We also see lane swaps a lot. (^:

Slamurai Jack1 votes

I seriously wonder if you actually play these champs. Vel'koz is one of the best mid laners in the game right now. Karthus's win rate the past few patches is among the highest its ever been. Malzahar has been sitting at above 54% or higher win rate for ages now. Ashe has the highest win rate of all adcs when played by people who are actually good at this game. Brand has a solid 52% win rate in mid and an absurd 55%+ when played as support. Ziggs, while certainly a shadow of his former self, still fills his role well; he provides solid poke, cross map waveclear, and a massive AOE nuke on his ult. Anyone who says that Ziggs is a worse version of Xerath fails the recognize that there are multiple key differences between them. The only champ on your list that I really agree with is Shyvana, the nerfs to tank items and buffs to adc items over the last year have not been kind to her.

DropFill1 votes

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I seriously wonder if you actually play these champs. Vel'koz is one of the best mid laners in the game right now. Karthus's win rate the past few patches is among the highest its ever been. Malzahar has been sitting at above 54% or higher win rate for ages now. Ashe has the highest win rate of all adcs when played by people who are actually good at this game. Brand has a solid 52% win rate in mid and an absurd 55%+ when played as support. Ziggs, while certainly a shadow of his former self, still fills his role well; he provides solid poke, cross map waveclear, and a massive AOE nuke on his ult. Anyone who says that Ziggs is a worse version of Xerath fails the recognize that there are multiple key differences between them. The only champ on your list that I really agree with is Shyvana, the nerfs to tank items and buffs to adc items over the last year have not been kind to her.

I play malzahar, he is my favorite champion lore wise and I love his kit. I like to play vel'koz too. Xerath , LB and Ahri all shit in their faces. Win rates doesn't matter except if they are too low, or too high.

Big Lincoln1 votes

Urgot : I don't know what exactly say about him, since I never played him. I think the buff he will receive will not change anything, but it is a good step.

It's pretty good, actually. You can easily get around 430~ ish with Muramana and Frozen Heart, which is pretty good for a 9 second CD shield. I'd like to see a little larger ratio on the shield but that's nothing to laugh at.

Selluriah1 votes

Anivia doe. Master yi with ult runs faster than her q's missile speed... Low range, squishy and no mobility. Tis a sad life for the bird item 3070 Anivia item 3070

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